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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
6028.19 
Well...first of all we have to keep in mind what is the target

1) model to render
2) model to 3d print
3)model to techical draw and manifacturing

First target don't need an accurate modeling,just smooth surfaces.
I saw all your models Andrei,you make the main part then just assembly the details
take a look at the screenshot where i drew red arrows:those parts are not joined..just "placed"
now try to imagine if the customer wants also the hely printed in 3D:you must have a solid..
this means not only to melt all parts together,but often also fillet most of edges
take a look at the part i highlighted in blue:is not joined and also you have the seam that surely will make problems if filleted.



You don't care of all this things because you'll use this hely for 2D images..and you'are right !!



<<Moi is a tool..just depends by technique>>
I still support idea that here we can do ALMOST everything
I did a lot of complex objects with MOI and also "NOT-CAD" stuff ( pineapple..baguettes..recentely also banana plants..)
Most complex surface i did was front part of 500 Abarth



i spent a month to get that shape,and i knew it wasn't feasible here
Now i say to myself:"Mauro..you are a stupid to insist to get that kind of shapes"
I'm a industry mechanic and manteinance,so i work manually
Firts rule is always to use right tools for assembly-disassembly
i know..you can use the hammer to disassembly a bearing instead of the manual press...
when i did that part of 500 in MOI,i used "the hammer"...because..."i didn't have the press"(the right tool)

That's the reason why i never stop to dream that,soon or later, - "The Messiah" - (T-Splines or something like that) will appear in MOI "to save us" !! :)


Leave critics and weird thoughts apart..let me say to you,Andrei,all my compliments for your renders:Bravissimo!

M

EDITED: 14 Jul 2013 by M-DYNAMICS

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 From:  Andrei Samardac
6028.20 In reply to 6028.19 
Thanx m-dynamics,
Yes you are right I made it for render and may be animation, so I can allow to my self not to spend time fixing those things you are marked. Just leave them as they are)
But If it have to be printed on 3D printer, it could be fixed.
Good work with the car)
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 From:  BurrMan
6028.21 In reply to 6028.20 
Or, he 3d prints the parts as they are, then the little guy orders a kit and gets out his drill and glue and final assembles his "80 percent" Heli!!! :o
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 From:  stevecim
6028.22 
Top work
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 From:  Andrei Samardac
6028.24 
Hay people I just finished tutorial, check it here: http://moi3d.com/forum/messages.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6034.1
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 From:  The Mad Hatter (THE_MAD_HATTER)
6028.25 
Samardac,

Thanks for those tutorials, just spent the better part of two hours watching you build that 747, incredible stuff! I feel about 1000% more comfortable building organic shapes after watching your method.

Now to get a blueprint of a 747 and actually walk through it step by step alongside you.

Really appreciate the time and effort you put into that...

Ryan.
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 From:  Andrei Samardac
6028.26 In reply to 6028.25 
Thank you The Mad Hatter,
After I elaborate this method I also feel more confidence in making organic shapes in MOI)
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 From:  Ditto
6028.27 In reply to 6028.25 
@Mad Hatter :
> Now to get a blueprint of a 747 and actually walk through it step by step alongside you.

Better get an Airbus. Too many issues with "Made in the USA". AOG is too often with Boeing nowadays. ;)
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 From:  ed (EDDYF)
6028.28 
Careful Ditto - Both Michael and I are in the Seattle Washington area, under the shadow of Boeing :)

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 From:  Andrei Samardac
6028.29 In reply to 6028.28 
Aha ha ha))

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 From:  TpwUK
6028.30 In reply to 6028.29 
Bits Of Engines In Neighbours Gardens

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 From:  Ditto
6028.31 In reply to 6028.28 
Hehe ;)

> Careful Ditto - Both Michael and I are in the Seattle Washington area, under the shadow of Boeing :)

Just protect yourselves. Wear helmets! The overall empty weight of a Dreamliner is 259,500 lb (118,000 kg). Hope the shadow you are referring to don't fall on your head. Chances are, though, they do.

It was nice talking to you.

:) :) :)
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