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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4123.55 In reply to 4123.53 
you can download SU free 6 here ;)
http://www.brothersoft.com/downloads/sketchup.html
Advantage of the SU 6 : No need Internet Connection for load Components
And some formats as importation 3DS, DWG, DXF etc...
And as SU 6 is compatible SU 7, SU 8
it's very cool :)

EDITED: 29 Mar 2011 by PILOU

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 From:  FelixPQ (FELIX)
4123.56 In reply to 4123.54 
Michael,

thanks for all this info,

This note is from the Google site you gave me:

>Before you begin, we have one word of caution. Both the SkpReader and SkpWriter APIs were written prior to SketchUp's >acquisition by Google. Neither API is under active development. However, we do make bug fixes and provide limited support >through the Google SketchUp Developers discussion group.

I've downloaded the files just to see if they where different and it seems they are, at least in size. I even tried it, I renamed the existing one in the MOI directory and put the newer one at the same place. Then I saved my MOI box3 file to skp format again and it basically look the same as before in SU.

My conclusion of this little experiment is that even if MOI can export to SU which may be very convenient and appreciated by some, for my own use it's not very useful as I'll most likely have models composed of many connected parts. If I still want to use SU I'll use obj format at this time.

Regards,
Felix
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 From:  FelixPQ (FELIX)
4123.57 In reply to 4123.55 
Hi Pilou,

thanks for the info, I appreciate it a lot.

Thanks,
Felix
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4123.58 In reply to 4123.56 
Hi Felix,


> This note is from the Google site you gave me:
> <....>

Yes, they haven't really done much new work on the SkpWriter API. But the existing library works - is there any reason why this notice is of particular concern for you?

As far as I know, there is not any actual documentation for just the low level structure of SKP files, so using the SkpWriter.dll mechanism is really the only feasible way to write those particular kinds of files.


> I even tried it, I renamed the existing one in the MOI
> directory and put the newer one at the same place. Then
> I saved my MOI box3 file to skp format again and it basically
> look the same as before in SU.

That sounds like they have not changed the default selection color in their newest SkpWriter library. But I think it is something that I could set directly myself though for MoI's exports. Right now MoI does not set it, but it does not have to stay that way forever.

I guess it could be some kind of optional setting in MoI, because some people might want to have the current color which is the one that was used in versions of SketchUp prior to v8.

- Michael
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 From:  FelixPQ (FELIX)
4123.59 In reply to 4123.58 
Michael,

I cited the noted only because it makes me better understand the difficulties you are face with, trying to export skp file format.

From when I first pointed out this selection color thing and from what (little) I know now, I would think the selection color is always the same whatever the color of the object. I've "painted" rectangles in various colors and when I try to select them it seem to always turn out to dotted blue. With a blue face, there is nothing visible happening at all.

Though it could be more or less useful to change the default color provided by the library, I'm not sure it is worth all the effort this would require especially when Google itself doesn't seem to care that much.

Regards,
Felix
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4123.60 In reply to 4123.59 
Hi Felix,

> From when I first pointed out this selection color
> thing and from what (little) I know now, I would
> think the selection color is always the same whatever
> the color of the object.

Yup, as far as I know that's the way the way that SketchUp works to display selection...

- Michael
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 From:  FelixPQ (FELIX)
4123.61 In reply to 4123.60 
Michael,

MOI seems to display objects in some kind of semi transparent mode, do we have some control over this? For example, the red edge below.




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 From:  Michael Gibson
4123.62 In reply to 4123.61 
Hi Felix, that kind of bleed through of edges in thin areas is a display artifact - it's a side effect of the process that makes edges not get drawn submerged and partially obscured within their surfaces. There currently isn't any way to control it, it's just a display glitch to ignore.

Some more detailed info in this post here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=4061.6

- Michael
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 From:  FelixPQ (FELIX)
4123.63 In reply to 4123.62 
Micheal,

I'll follow your advice and just ignore this.

Thanks,
Felix
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