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 From:  MattGatten
2316.1 
This is my first attempt actually model something that already exists. My mouse. I'm pretty pleased with the results. Be gentle, I have only been doing 3D for a few weeks. :)

EDITED: 11 Jan 2009 by MATTGATTEN

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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
2316.2 In reply to 2316.1 
Very neat and smooth.
Lots of fun ahead of you!

Brian
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 From:  MattGatten
2316.3 
P.S. This was all done with curves and lofts. That's it. Left that fact out.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2316.4 In reply to 2316.1 
Looks like you are getting the hang of it Matt! :)

It is a pretty good idea to do several small projects like this to kind of gain experience.

Things start to get easier the more that you do it!

- Michael
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 From:  MattGatten
2316.5 In reply to 2316.4 
The one command I'm having trouble with is Blend. I've created a circle, then projected it onto the side of a cylinder. Then I select the circle, click Blend, the select the circle that I projected earlier then hit done. Nothing happens. What am I doing wrong? I would like to get those real smooth connections between objects.

Thanks again,
Matt
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2316.6 In reply to 2316.5 
Hi Matt,

> I've created a circle, then projected it onto the side of
> a cylinder. Then I select the circle, click Blend, the select
> the circle that I projected earlier then hit done.

Could you please attach a .3dm file with your circle and cylinder in it that you are talking about?

It is a lot easier to see what is happening when looking at the same model, rather than just a text description...

But probably my guess is that you're running into a problem of having a "standalone" curve object that is directly on top of the surface edge, which prevents you from selecting the surface edge easily.

If you want to do a blend between surfaces, you have to select surface edges for that, not "curve" objects that are separate from the surface. Basically, before doing the blend try clicking on that curve when there is nothing selected. If it selects then, that means it is a separate curve object and not an "edge" - delete that separate curve so that you can select the edge and then you'll probably be able to do the blend.

But if you can post the model file it would make it easier to know if that is the problem or not.

That "curve on top of edge masking selection" is kind of an easy problem to run into, it tends to be a good idea to delete or hide those curves after you are done using them so that they don't get in your way.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2316.7 In reply to 2316.6 
Also one other note - you normally don't have to project a cutting object like a circle on to a surface first before trying to cut it. Both Trim and boolean functions have that kind of projection built into them, so normally you can just select your original un-projected circle as the cutting object. That can save some steps and also help to keep additional generated curves out of the way as well.

- Michael
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 From:  MattGatten
2316.8 In reply to 2316.7 
I attached the file. Thanks for the help. This is one tool that has me banging my head on the desk. :)
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2316.9 In reply to 2316.8 
Hi Matt, the way Blend works is it creates a new smooth surface between 2 open edges of 2 existing surfaces, like this for example:



(the above taken from the documentation page here:
http://moi3d.com/1.0/docs/moi_command_reference7.htm#blend

But in the file that you've got there, you only have one surface piece there - so that won't blend, you need 2 surfaces to blend.

Are you trying to make a kind of "T" juncture there?

If so, then I think what you need to do first is to create the other surface, you can do that by using Draw solid / Cylinder, or if you want you can select that circle you've already got there (just delete the projected one, you won't need it), and run Construct / Extrude to punch it out to make a second solid that goes through the first one, then use Construct / Boolean / Union to fuse those 2 pieces together into one single piece, then select the new edge between them and use Construct/Fillet to round off that juncture.

Here is a video of what that looks like:



Is that the kind of thing you were after here? If not then maybe I'll need some more information on what you're trying to do.

Otherwise, let me know if you need more details on any of the steps that are happening there.

Hope this helps!

- Michael
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 From:  BurrMan
2316.10 In reply to 2316.9 
Michael beat me to it. I made a little tute to try and illustrate the blend also. May as well post it too, for more info your you! Skeedoo.

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 From:  Michael Gibson
2316.11 In reply to 2316.10 
Definitely good info in there Burr, and more step by step and probably easier to follow!

- Michael
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 From:  BurrMan
2316.12 In reply to 2316.11 
Tank you....Masta Gibson! I call it.... "Drunken Monkey Technique!"

Beats tongue of fire and mantis fists every time!

(Sorry, remembering my Dad taking me to "Five Fingers of Death". my first movie.)
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
2316.13 In reply to 2316.10 
@Burr
Enlighting Blend method!
PS Want to know signification of Burrman if it's a Nickname of course
Because my dico gives many possibilities for Burr :)
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 From:  BurrMan
2316.14 In reply to 2316.13 
Yes Pilou, BurrMan was what guy's in hockey used to call me. Kind of a macho thing I guess... Everybody gets a nickname!

The Gibber, P Man and BurrMan are in the Forum at the moment.

As for the Origins of "Burr", I really dont know. Could be Mom was "Cold" when I was born. Could be I'm a "Sticker" in your side. (No comments from you Danny! :) Could be I'm a complex puzzle!

More likley a bit of swedish in the blood let Mom Choose a swedish name. "FOG"

If only it meant kind hearted, caring individual......Then I'de have it made! Dancing on happy street.

Whoa is me!
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
2316.15 In reply to 2316.14 
Thx because I believe that the burr was this sort of thing
So a Burrman will be a mad dentist :D
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
2316.16 In reply to 2316.14 
Yet another great video from the Burrman!

Good stuff there Burr, especially that it has instructional voice over, if they say a picture says a thousand words, adding voice over doubles it !
I'm trying to get the time to do a tutorial myself, and then you'll get to here my Aussie accent, mate! :)

>(No comments from you Danny! :)

Well, now that you've mentioned it ;) I Googled 'Burr' and hit the 'I'm Feeling Lucky' button and, lol a sh_t load of definitions come up, did you know that Aaron Burr was the US vice president between 1756-1836 ? :D

Cheers
~Danny~
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
2316.17 
About Blend Burr method
Don't works with a "star" as expected
What I miss ?
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
2316.18 In reply to 2316.17 
Hi Pilou,

Blend only works 1 edge to 1 edge, It won't do multiple edges simultaneously.

Le mélange fonctionne seulement 1 bord à 1 bord, il ne fera pas les bords multiples simultanément ;)

Cheers
~Danny~
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 From:  MattGatten
2316.19 In reply to 2316.18 
Michael and Burrman, you guys rock. I see what you are talking about. Thanks for going to the trouble of schoolin' me. :) I own Camtasia. Maybe I'll put some tool demos together and actually start contributing. ha!

Thanks guys.


EDITED: 12 Jan 2009 by MATTGATTEN

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
2316.20 In reply to 2316.18 
@Danny : OK!
So i must move points of a circle for have a "star" ;)



But curious than a star with edges rounded "joined" who is also a closed curve like a circle don't give the same result ?
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