Hi chipp,

Thank you very much for your suggestion!

P.S. Just out of curiosity...are you playing with 3D-Coat in order to test a possible optimized workflow made by :
- Modelling in Moi
- Exporting to Obj
- Importing in 3D-Coat for : 1 - Retopo, 2 - Uving, 3 - Painting with Smart Materials, 4 - Texture Exporting, 5 - Final render in Thea Render or others ?

Have a nice day.

- Marco (mkdm)

Hi Marco,

I haven't tried the full pipeline you propose yet. I don't think I would use topology tools as I don't want to subD the final model. I know 3DCoat has automated topology tools, but I believe they're better for soft models than hard models as I have played with them in the past.

i have an older license of 3DCoat and probably should have taken advantage of their update offer a couple months ago if I'm going to try and incorporate it's PBR surfacing into my workflow. I'm curious if it can also export maps that KeyShot can use?

Hi chippwalters,

I wrote you in the thread "Rendering software" at http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8034.52,

because i think that i'm "Off topic" if i continue to use the thread "Project moi3d v4" for this particular argument (Moi-3DCoat-External Renderer workflow).

Ciao!

- Marco (mkdm)

Hi Michael,

How are you ? I hope fine.

Just out of curiosity...

Have you finally chosen the core modeling kernel for the next v4 of Moi ?

Is it the promising KCM you told us about, not so long ago ?

Nice day !

- Marco (mkdm)

Hi adamio,

I'm confident that KCM is OK.

In http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=7954.33
Michael said "...KCM is under very active development...."

Nice day!

- Marco (mkdm)

Hi Marco, things are fine over here. I haven't gotten to the stage yet for evaluating how KCM will fit in with MoI, that will probably be the very last stage that I'll work on before the first v4 beta will be released. I still have to do the display engine first before I get to there.

A complete switchover will probably be too much work for one release cycle but I want to investigate the feasibility of doing it in pieces like with using KCM for a few particular areas like filleting and shelling which are some of the weaker areas of MoI currently. But just as a note of caution I have done this type of investigation before with another kernel and it was not workable because that kernel was very picky about what type of imported geometry it would work with. I have some good hope that KCM will not be like that though.

- Michael

Hi Michael,

and thanks a lot for your detailed reply.

> I still have to do the display engine first before I get to there.

Well... then the bulk of the work is done, i guess :)

> I have some good hope that KCM will not be like that though.

I bet KCM will be a perfect companion for all the future versions of Moi.

All good wishes for your work!

- Marco (mkdm)

Hi everyone,

Those are just a few infos regarding the KCM kernel :

http://www.cimdata.com/en/resources/complimentary-reports-research/commentaries/item/6140-kubotek-s-new-kcm-geometry-kernel-commentary

http://gfxspeak.com/2016/04/07/kubotek-readies-kcm-geometry-kernel/

Ciao!

- Marco (mkdm)

Wish we could already pre-order V4, no matter the release date :)

Hi PaQ,

...we are doing psychological pressure on Michael...

:) :) :)

If only i think that McNeel & Associates has not yet released their Rhino V6....and it's been a long, long time since Rhino V5.....sigh!

Nice day !

- Marco (mkdm)

I HIGHLY appreciate the development policy of McNeel (and Michael's as well, of course) not releasing a new major version for the sake of money as most other 3d companies do, but rather do a thoughtful and careful development which is consumer-oriented and ensures better software with less bugs. I'm a bit hyped by the new v6 features as well (like the new realtime render preview), but v5 (and MoI v3) still meets all my CAD and modeling demands. So, both companies do a very good job!

Hi 3image,

I agree with you regarding Moi and Michael, but as a owner of Rhino V5 i must admit that their V6 WIP version it's really a big disappointment for me.

While i appreciate the powerful and unique tools that Rhino offers, all in one single package (great thing),
i can't believe that after more then almost 5 years of development, with all the human resources that McNeel has,
the V6 WIP version still presents the same horrible UI and still offers to the users, one of he worst workflows in the 3D CAD market.

I can understand that, as Michael said many times in the past, its workflow has been designed for Autocad users,
but in the 2016, people have become accustomed with smarter and more agile software.

But, I fear that in McNeel inhabits a different perception of this matter :(

They should learn from smart people like Michael, or from the creators of 3DCoat, or from the creators of Affinity Designer, just to name a few...


Ciao !

- Marco (mkdm)

Hello,

There was really no pressure from my side. And I also appreciate the rigorous (?) development from Michael.

The pre-order idea was just to give a little bit of support (money), as it seems the amount of work needed for this new version
is way over the initial scope.

Hi everyone,

As a side note to my previous post (http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=7954.63),
and talking about the great workflow that Michael has developed for Moi,
i'm testing a combined workflow involving the new polygonal + SDS software Rocket3F from Istonia and Samardac (currently in beta),
in conjunction with Moi.

It seems really a great marriage !

I know, that rightly, Samardac does not collect high esteem in this forum, but i must admit that its collaboration with Istonia (the creator of NVIL)
is showing very good results.

Moi + Rocket3F (or NVIL) + Max's subdiv script = GREAT THINGS !!

Ciao !

- Marco (mkdm)

Rocket3F has a fruity UI! That is refreshing!

Never heard of Rocket3F but I know Nvil. So is Rocket some kind of successor to Nvil or what's the partnership all about?

Agree with PaQ:pre-order to support Michael

M

I would pre-order, too. Michael does indeed a fantastic job with MoI!

Hi 3image,

Yes, Rocket3F is a form of successor to NVIL and it's based on NVIL core engine.

The description of the project is readable in : https://rocket3f.com/team

Ciao!

- Marco (mkdm)