Hi Marco, there will definitely be an individual thread specifically for the beta release, same as all previous beta releases. It will be titled something like "V4 beta Nov-11-2017 available now".

- Michael

Thanks a lot!

Ciao.

November 11th? Cool!! ;)

11 November ...

Armistice 1918 ? ;>)

11.11.2017 begin of "Fasching (Fastnacht,Karneval)" so i expect V4 at exactly at 11.11 o'clock!

<;-)

Michael,

Not sure if asked before, but will the UI CSS stay the same or will there be changes?

Hi Chipp, there are a few changes like there's a new class for controlling the borders of flyout menus rather than that coming from a bitmap image, and flexbox layouts are now done using the newer style standardized flexbox instead of the deprecated webkit-specific flexbox. So some css property names for flexbox properties are different.

Most of it is the same, there's like 50 lines different out of 1000. I've attached the CSS files here if you want to diff them to see the differences.

- Michael

Hi Michael!

@You : "...moi_v4.css..."

This is the very first public "piece" of the V4 !

:)

Hi!

This is a quick and only "visual" check of the difference between V3 and V4 css.

The video : http://take.ms/w6ct3

Ciao!

Hello Michael!

Just a "quick and dirt" question...

Maybe there's a little chance that soon I can get my hands on the wanderful iPad Pro 12.9 second generation with Apple Pencil,
a true "piece of cake" for digital artists/enthusiasts.

Is there any chance to see Moi running on iOs 11/iPad Pro ?

Thanks and have a nice day.

Marco (mkdm)

Hi Marco, sorry no I don't have any plans currently to do an iOS port, it's a fairly different system and that makes various complications such as not all the libraries that MoI uses have an ARM binary available.

Just supporting 2 operating systems has pretty much pushed me to the limit as it is.

You might want to check out Shapr3D, it's an interesting design program that does run on iPad Pro.

- Michael

Thanks Michael for the suggestion of Shapr3D.

I didn't know it.

Ciao!

Ok, well I've got the shaded surface display fully functional now. The line/curve drawing looks pretty gross though, I think just a couple of days to get that at least partially tuned up so it's not too distracting and then the first v4 beta will be ready.

- Michael

Marco,

I can tell you, that shapr3d is great fun. It is not without it's idiosyncrasies and missing functionality, but modelling on an iPadpro with stylus ("pencil") is a real joy.

In terms of moi3d, it is possible to use the iPad as a second screen with duet,
so laptop screen is fully devoted to Nodeeditor while viewport is assigned to iPad.

And with another soft: Astropad, the iPad Pro can be transformed into a pseudo wacom cintiq.

Further....there is a raft of graphic programs built for iPadPro. I can't made any recommendations, as I have not made use of any to date, but I would be interested in your opinion of them.

Have a great weekend
James

@You : "...Ok, well I've got the shaded surface display fully functional now..."

Michael....you rock!!

Take your time to build a very good first release!

I'm confident you're doing so :)

Ciao!

Hi James.

Thanks a lot for your sharing! Much appreciated.

Well...I hope ASAP to get my hands on the 12.9 second generation iPad Pro because IMHO,
actually, is simply the "state of the art" device for the greatest mobile (and not only) digital painting experience.


@You : "...In terms of moi3d, it is possible to use the iPad as a second screen with duet,
so laptop screen is fully devoted to Nodeeditor while viewport is assigned to iPad.
And with another soft: Astropad, the iPad Pro can be transformed into a pseudo wacom cintiq."

Thanks for the tip, but I don't own any Mac pc/laptop....only Windows machines.

@You : "...Further....there is a raft of graphic programs built for iPadPro..."

Which is this program you are referring to ?

@You : "...but I would be interested in your opinion of them...."

Certainly, As soon as I get the iPap Pro 12.9 I will let you know my user experience with it!

Thanks.

Marco (mkdm)

Hi Marco

<< I don't own any Mac pc/laptop....only Windows machines>>

Astropad will only pair with a mac, but Duet Display will work with
a PC desktop. It just may be less needed than for a laptop.

<<Which is this program you are referring to ?>>

Some worth considering are as follows:

• Affinity photo
• Concepts
• Procreate
• Graphic https://appsto.re/de/bM8Pv.i
• iDesign
• Protosketch
• Pixelmator https://appsto.re/gb/lUBh3.i
• Umake

Have a look at youtube video reviews
and when you get iPadPro, download trials
and have a play around...

And have fun!
James

Hi James!

Thanks a lot for the detailed info :)

Wow...amazing! I didn't know that Duet can just might work with a PC.
Wanderful!!!

Affinity Photo and Procreate...two super wanderful products! State of the art software, like Moi!

I can't wait to see myself in action with my next iPad Pro :)

Now I don't want to write here to much things about this matter because this thread is called "V4 Wish List"....

Thanks again for your suggestions.

Ciao!

From another direction... how long has V4 been in the works? Got it a few months back and just haven't had the time to dive back in to using it.. other projects.

Hi Moriturimax, I've been working on v4 for 2 and a half years so far, it's taken a lot longer than I had originally hoped it would. But it sets a better foundation for going forward especially for the Mac version.

- Michael