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 From:  blackboard
11043.9 
Hello,thanks for new update.what will come out next? will moi3d have a pull/push function like in fusion or similar like in plasticity. When will the next beta release be?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11043.10 In reply to 11043.8 
Hi Pilou, thanks for the bug report.

re:
> Last beta version 8 avril 2023
> Indeed but also a little glitch (not visual effect display but real error of result)

It's a bug in the display mesher, so it actually is just a visual effect display bug.

If you save the glitched result to a .3dm file and reload it, is the glitch then gone?

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11043.11 In reply to 11043.10 
Alas no same result!
In Solid++ or Acis !
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11043.12 
But if i draw another box different than the above that works normally!

I was unlucky to input a box with the false dimensions! :)

Very very curious! :D
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11043.13 In reply to 11043.11 
Hi Pilou,

re:
> Alas no same result!
> In Solid++ or Acis !

Hi Pilou, here are the steps I'm following.

Step 1 - load your file kub05.3dm using the Apr-8-2023 v5 beta.

Looks like this:


Then i selected the edge you indicated:


And then I ran the Fillet command and put in radius = 3, I get the glitch that you saw:



After the fillet command has been completed if I now save to a .3dm file and reload it, the glitch is gone. Looks like this:



Do you see different results with these same steps?

- Michael

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11043.14 
Crossing post

With a box 3 x 4 x 5

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 From:  Michael Gibson
11043.15 In reply to 11043.14 
Hi Pilou,

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> With a box 3 x 4 x 5

And if you save the glitched result to a .3dm file and reload it?

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11043.16 
Yes when i reload or import the glitch disapears for my box 3 4 5
or for my previous one! :)

Good luck for find the the display bug! :)
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11043.17 In reply to 11043.9 
Hi blackboard,

re:
> Hello,thanks for new update.what will come out next?

Next there will probably still be more fixes for the fillet integration.


> will moi3d have a pull/push function like in fusion or similar like in plasticity.

Yes, that's the "Direct Modeling" functionality that I was mentioning earlier.

There is some push/pull like functionality already working though, if you select a face object then you can use the Extrude command to do a push/pull like action where it automatically booleans the extrusion with the main body.

http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6790.3


> When will the next beta release be?

There will probably be new bug fix releases every 1 to 2 weeks while tuning the ACIS integration.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11043.18 In reply to 11043.16 
Hi Pilou,

re:
> Yes when i reload or import the glitch disapears for my box 3 4 5
> or for my previous one! :)

So that's an easy fix for the moment for this display bug. But I will see about fixing it up so that isn't necessary.

Thanks, - Michael
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 From:  Death
11043.19 In reply to 11043.18 
I tried Pilou's example, get the same artifact.
However: If you right click (the command repeats), just click the object, then DONE and the artifact is gone...
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11043.20 In reply to 11043.19 
cool trick before the fix!
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 From:  blackboard
11043.21 In reply to 11043.17 
Nice,i very glad to see how you add improvement.

I have one more question,there are forecasts when you will be able to add direct modeling?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11043.22 In reply to 11043.21 
Hi blackboard,

re:
> I have one more question,there are forecasts when you will be able to add direct modeling?

Hopefully within the next month.

- Michael
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 From:  moritzbock (MORITZ)
11043.23 In reply to 11043.1 
Hello Michael,
is this update suitable for my Mac or do I need a new OS version?

The terminal command seems to have no effect:
sudo xattr -cr '/Applications/MoI v5 beta Apr-8-2023.app'

MoI just does not start

Greetings
-moritz






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 From:  pressure (PEER)
11043.24 In reply to 11043.23 
Hi Moritz,

The release notes for the previous version say "On Mac 10.14 and higher is supported." http://moi3d.com/forum/messages.php?webtag=MOI&msg=11034.1

It looks like 10.14 is probably compatible with your mid 2012 computer https://eshop.macsales.com/guides/Mac_OS_X_Compatibility

- Peer
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 From:  moritzbock (MORITZ)
11043.25 In reply to 11043.24 
Thanks Peer,
then I guess I have to upgrade my PC .... 8-(
-moritz
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11043.26 In reply to 11043.23 
Hi moritz,

re:
> is this update suitable for my Mac or do I need a new OS version?

You will need a newer OS version, sorry. Apple doesn't really have any priority on compatibility to older releases, so it tends to be difficult to support older OS versions with newer build tools.

The ACIS library that MoI is now using will only run on 10.14 or higher, that's why Moi can't run on 10.13 or lower anymore.

- Michael
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
11043.27 
Hi Michael,

A quick question: I did a brief research on ACIS and it seems it is over 3 decades that it is in the business, So, I think it is safe if we assume ACIS is pretty robust, right? However, I noticed there are fillets it cannot do while 123Design can do! is it because of superior fillet engine that 123D uses or is it because of the implementation of ACIS in MOI is in it's early stages?

-Psygorn
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11043.28 In reply to 11043.27 
Hi Psygorn,

> However, I noticed there are fillets it cannot do while 123Design can do! is it because
> of superior fillet engine that 123D uses or is it because of the implementation of ACIS
> in MOI is in it's early stages?

I don't really have enough information to be able to answer this with certainty yet but it's pretty likely that it's something that needs tuning in how MoI converts model data into and out of ACIS.

Can you please send me (email moi@moi3d.com) the model files for these fillet cases that worked in 123Design but not in MoI currently?

- Michael
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