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From: pior (PIOR_O)
19 Feb 2023   [#3] In reply to [#2]
Hello Michael,

1 - Ha ! at first I though that I simply overlooked the option you mention ... but I now realize that it simply isn't available in V4, as the property panel for dims on my end is as follows :



Is there perhaps a way to toggle the option without going through the UI ?

2 - Understood - but I suppose that even by simply relying on a PDF export to bake things down, I would still be limited by the fact that I can't lock the text in place beforehand since I don't have access to the Scaling option for text in V4. So I suppose that this goes back to question (1), on how to possibly set text scaling for dims and annotations to be by model units. Is the current zoom factor at the time of export determining the equivalent Scaling that the DXF dims get written as ?

(As a matter of fact, being able to "bake down" the text and dims to geometry/lines would become secondary or even not needed at all if I could at least set the scaling of these objects to be by model units - because that way I'd now that there would be full consistency between my MOI work scenes and my DXF exports for the shop, and that would be a good place to be). Of course I could also upgrade to V5 but that's not something I need at the moment and I would rather keep all my current projects as V4.

As always thanks for the support !

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From: Michael Gibson
19 Feb 2023   [#4] In reply to [#3]
Hi pior, the "Scaling" option is available in v4 but it looks like you have a customized UI that is kind of a mash-up of a MoI version 3 era moi.css file (which is why your dropdown controls have a strangely placed arrow) and maybe some pieces from an older v4 beta?

You are missing some other pieces of the v4 object properties dialog as well, it should look like this for annotation properties:



It looks like you are missing new UI stuff from the Sep-10-2020 v4 beta - http://moi3d.com/wiki/V4Beta#Sep-10-2020

It's probably from overwriting the final v4 UI files with older versions.

You can get a new download of the installer at https://moi3d.com/reinstall.htm .


re:
> Is there perhaps a way to toggle the option without going through the UI ?

Nope. Well actually I guess you can set it through script as well but using the UI is the intended way.


> So I suppose that this goes back to question (1), on how to possibly set text scaling for dims and
> annotations to be by model units.

I would recommend to re-install MoI so you have the final v4 UI instead of the UI from an earlier beta version.

If you want a dark UI I'd recommend using the v5 beta, it has one built in.


> Is the current zoom factor at the time of export determining the equivalent Scaling that
> the DXF dims get written as ?

When you have "Scaling: By model units" set there is an additional "Height" field that is shown where you can edit the model units height.

- Michael

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From: pior (PIOR_O)
19 Feb 2023   [#5] In reply to [#4]
Interesting - Indeed my UI is heavily customized, and it's very likely that I've ported it from V3 to V4. Besides the custom color/theme I only need my custom Sidepane.htm for tools organization really - so indeed a clean install should do the trick. Will try !
From: pior (PIOR_O)
10 Mar 2023   [#6] In reply to [#5]
Alrighty, all solved through a reinstall. Thanks !

And for what it's worth, two suggestions from there :

- The ability to copy-paste dim styling properties from one to another
- A way to convert from Screen Size to Model Units according to the way the dim is currently presented on screen.
From: pressure (PEER)
10 Mar 2023   [#7] In reply to [#6]
Hi Pior,

Yeah it might be cool if the number of model units that keeps the screen size of the annotation the same as immediately before changing the scaling mode were applied when changing from annotation scaling By Screen Size to By Model Units. In other words, if the annotation size on screen wouldn't change when changing mode. This would make it so that the By Screen Size mode could be used to get things close by zooming and then By Model Units could be used for finessing / locking things down.

- Peer
From: Michael Gibson
10 Mar 2023   [#8] In reply to [#6]
Hi Pior,

re:
> The ability to copy-paste dim styling properties from one to another

At some point I'd like to add controls for this into the object properties dialog.

Until then I've attached a MatchAnnotationProps command that can do that job.

To use it, select the dim you want to modify, then run MatchAnnotationProps, then select the object you want to match up with.

Instructions for installing a plug-in here.

- Michael

Attachments:
MatchAnnotationProps.zip


From: pior (PIOR_O)
17 Mar 2023   [#9] In reply to [#8]
Well, that's yet another excellent little addition ! Very useful, thanks Michael :)

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