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 From:  TpwUK
5405.3 In reply to 5405.2 
Yeap - It's machine specific here, but still trying to determine what's gone astray - lol

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 From:  TpwUK
5405.4 
Even more bizarre ... If i draw a circle and do a rebuild with #points, set the points to 10 and delete original curve, the do planar surface it then works .... confused here now.

Latest Nvidia drivers installed, that was fun ... not, played with Diablo 3 for a few minutes and all is fine in there. I am sure I read VC-Red version 2010 causes problems with MoI, so i have removed that, and the solid-works trial i had installed, but it don't fix things ... :(

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EDITED: 17 Sep 2012 by TPWUK

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 From:  TpwUK
5405.5 
Problem solved - Error was on my side of things. I had been editing high detailed models so i had the mesh angle set at 100 - LOL

The sad thing here is that version 2 and both v3 betas here all must be using the same settings file, or is this value held in a registry key ?

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 From:  Michael Gibson
5405.6 In reply to 5405.5 
Hi Martin, I'm glad you've got it all figured out now!


> I am sure I read VC-Red version 2010 causes problems with MoI,

That's the first that I've heard about that... As far as I know any VC redistributable package should not have any effect on MoI at all.


> The sad thing here is that version 2 and both v3 betas here all must be
> using the same settings file, or is this value held in a registry key ?

Yup, and that's an intentional feature - that's so that when you install a new v3 beta for example it starts out initially with all of your customized settings.

Those settings are stored in the moi.ini file - if you like you can copy the moi.ini file to a new location and then pass the file path to MoI as a command line parameter in its startup shortcut, then it will use that particular file to load and save settings.

You can find the current moi.ini file that is being used by going to Options > General and push the Edit .ini file button, the location of the current moi.ini file will be shown on the dialog that comes up.

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 From:  TpwUK
5405.7 In reply to 5405.6 
Hi Michael, yeah all done and dusted, but not the most pleasurable exercise - lol

Lesson learnt the hard way with the ini file though. I don't use any custom scripts with MoI, since i was testing the latest beta version with a large IGES file 497MB, I had dropped the mesh resolution so I could export it as OBJ files, never even thought about a beta application modding a stable one, so when i went back to designing my decking for the garden, I never noticed the problem as most things are square with little chamfers here and there, it was not until I wanted to do a Victorian style spindle that it raised it's ugly head and had me running around like a headless chicken, amusing now ... yeah. But not at the time.

Also, I have now noticed that the V3 beta has taken over the MoI link from the start menu, the previous beta used to declare it self as a beta and the date. Not a big issue, now that i know, I now have MoI 2.0 on the quick launch instead.

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 From:  Michael Gibson
5405.8 In reply to 5405.7 
Hi Martin, a mesh angle of 100 is really extremely coarse, if you need to make the display meshes lighter for a heavy file I'd recommend something more like 35 degrees, that would have left spheres looking just really rough but not so completely mangled.


> Also, I have now noticed that the V3 beta has taken over the MoI link from the
> start menu, the previous beta used to declare it self as a beta and the date.

Nothing has changed in the installer for setting up the start menu links for quite a few years now, so I'm not sure what you might be running into here.

In some areas of the start menu, Windows organizes things by frequency of use and so the position of some things can change, is that possibly what you're seeing?

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 From:  TpwUK
5405.9 In reply to 5405.8 
Hi Michael, I have three MoI entries in the start menu (Windows 7 Ultimate x64), Moi 2 used to just say MoI, and so clicking it put me in version 2, then I grabbed the July beta and it shows as "MoI 3.0 beta Jul-20-2012", then the September version came along and it shows as just, "MoI" no other information. Now MoI 2 says MoI 2.0, or maybe I have just noticed because of what happened, don't know for sure, but like i say - no real problem, when i have this Decking finished then this PC is being stripped and rebuilt in a new case, when that happens it will be new fresh install time too.

Thanks Michael

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 From:  Michael Gibson
5405.10 In reply to 5405.9 
I think I see what happens re: start menu - the MoI installer puts an icon named "MoI" inside your start menu but it actually puts it nested inside a folder with the full version name on the folder. You can see these folders listed with you go to the "All Programs" menu.

Then when you run it, Windows puts the shortcut inside that folder onto your recently used programs list, and that's when you'll get multiple plain "MoI" things in your start menu.

I guess I should put the full version name onto the individual launcher shortcut as well instead of just the outer folder, since the outer folder name is not visually maintained once Windows puts the program shortcut itself onto its recent list.

I'll give that a try for the next release, I think that should tune it up from here on out to avoid this problem.

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 From:  TpwUK
5405.11 In reply to 5405.10 
Well I guess it's only a problem because of me having the betas installed. In reality I would guess most people prefer not to trust beta applications on their main computer, maybe I should hoof off previous beta and just settle for one beta at a time, but fixing the problem would certainly help with beta testing, especially should I or others need to roll back one.

Thanks Michael

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