MoI in Develop3D magazine

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 From:  Michael Gibson
1722.1 
MoI is covered in an article in the June 2008 launch issue of the new Develop3D magazine (http://develop3d.com/).

Page 16 - Josh Mings discusses "Ease of Use" and discusses some of the basic differences between SolidWorks, SpaceClaim, and MoI's approaches to building objects.

Choice quote: "MoI (Moment of Inspiration) is really intuitive - it's like shaping styrofoam without the mess".

- Michael
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
1722.2 In reply to 1722.1 
Josh Mings from Develop3d: >>However, I wouldn't choose MoI to create a precise model,.....

Huh!! why not ??

Does this mean I should get my model back from the prototyping mob and tell the customer not to make the mould because the dimensions he gave me are not correct coming out of MoI ;)
Obviously Josh didn't go into the review of each app deeply enough.

Michael ! whats going on ? Both Josh and David Diamond don't think that the precision is there in MoI.
I've checked this, when I export a solid from MoI as iges and import it into a high end app and sew all the sheets back up again with a 0.01mm tolerance, it becomes a 'proper' solid again with no errors and when I measure the model I made in MoI at 23.52mm it actually measures 23.52mm in any other 3d app I bring it into. So I don't know what these guys are talking about ????

The thing is that coming from an engineering background, if I happened to read these two articles about MoI, I wouldn't of even tried MoI with statements like that about it's precision, I'm so glad that I found MoI as a junior 3d app and watch it kick ass as it matures.

Michael, I think you have to educate these reviewers a bit more on the capabilities of this fine app.

Cheers
~Danny~
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 From:  Michael Gibson
1722.3 In reply to 1722.2 
Hi Danny, yeah it could be easy to misinterpret that particular part.

But my guess is that he's probably talking more about constraint-driven type sketches, the kind of stuff where you see a whole bunch of dimensions explicitly labeled on the screen and can change them and have the model update. I think it is fair to call that area of constraints to generally be a "precision-oriented" area of functionality in solid modeling software, and MoI is not focused on that particular set of precision-related functions.

Of course just because MoI doesn't do constraint-based stuff does not mean that MoI is totally lacking in precision-oriented functions, I mean at a fundamental level the type of geometry that MoI creates is "real" NURBS geometry, like when you create a sphere it is a fully precise sphere, etc... and you do have the most essential controls over basic stuff like entering an exact width and height of a rectangle you are drawing, placing a point at a specific coordinate, drawing a line of a specific length, and so forth.

Josh does mention this a bit earlier, he also wrote: "You can be very exact with the snaps and construction lines ... "


> Obviously Josh didn't go into the review of each app deeply enough.

He probably was not really allowed enough space for the article to really make that possible to do...

It seemed like the concept of the article was more to try and describe a bit of some of the strengths and weaknesses of some different modeling systems approaches, for the size allowed I think he did a good job of that, and he definitely recognized MoI's approach was really a leader in the simplicity aspect and also for incorporating freeform elements, so that was cool!

I mean I am actually really happy to see MoI being used as a primary representative for a whole kind of category of modeling approach!

- Michael
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 From:  Michael T. (MICTU_UTCIM)
1722.4 In reply to 1722.3 
Michael G. & all,

I have been using MoI IGES files back and forth with both Pro-E an Unigraphics for mechanical features and graphics such as specialized text in models that have been used to produce production injection molding tools and I have had no problems with the models or any issues from tool makers regarding these features. MoI is perfect for the things I have used it for. It can handle some of the surfacing and mechanical tasks that seem to take forever in parametric history based systems in a matter of minutes.

MoI is accurate enough to handle some of my most complex tasks, and I will continue to keep it as a valuable tool in my Product Development Toolchest.

I have been designing products for 20 years and BC (Before CAD) and I like to think I know a good tool when I use it.

Keep up the good work Michael G!

Michael T.
Michael Tuttle a.k.a. mictu http://www.coroflot.com/fish317537
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
1722.5 In reply to 1722.4 
Hey mictu,

Same here.

>>It can handle some of the surfacing and mechanical tasks that seem to take forever in parametric history based systems in a matter of minutes.

I can totally relate to that! :D

Cheers
~Danny~
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 From:  David (BLEND3D)
1722.6 
I felt that the reviewer while stating that he was stepping into the maelstrom somewhat pandered to the three user bases. Not as informative as it may have been intended.

I must say though I'm glad to see MoI in reviews as the exposure will ultimately expand the user base. Michael will be with income and the incentive to continue developing this unique, easy to use, economical and accurate application.
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 From:  manz
1722.7 In reply to 1722.4 
>>I have been designing products for 20 years and BC (Before CAD)

You would need to go back a little further to get to BC(before CAD). I was using the early versions of Autocad in the early 80`s.
What about "Sketchpad" (1963)
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 From:  Michael T. (MICTU_UTCIM)
1722.8 In reply to 1722.7 
Sorry manz, I was refering to my own personal exposure to CAD :-) Drafting board to Computervisions Personal Designer software. I think it is DOS freeware now :-)

Michael T.
Michael Tuttle a.k.a. mictu http://www.coroflot.com/fish317537
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 From:  manz
1722.9 In reply to 1722.8 
Hi Michael T,

No personal disrespect intended, I was not sure if you where aware of the products available more than 20 years ago. Sorry if you thought more than that (it is my fault)

Regards,

Manz (steve)
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 From:  jbshorty
1722.10 
Hi. If it makes you feel any better, i think you're both old!!! :)

jonah
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 From:  Michael T. (MICTU_UTCIM)
1722.11 In reply to 1722.10 
Thanks guys, I was aware of the availability of the 3D software 20 years ago, but you have to remember that "our" employers were in control of what was purchased, right or wrong (usually wrong because they are not designers).

Now if you all don't mind I have to put my teeth in a cup and hope that I can remember where I put the cup in the morning. So now I can go to bed, wake up (hopefully) and use my AARP discount for breakfast!!!

Funny stuff folks!

Michael T.
Michael Tuttle a.k.a. mictu http://www.coroflot.com/fish317537
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