Hi Mindset,

re:
> Once I click on a style, that style remains in the selection and all the other styles
> immediately disappear from the list.
> Is there any way to do multiple selects of both styles and/or names?

Yes, if you hold down the Shift key before you click on a tag and keep Shift held down you can select other tags and they won't get triggered until you release the Shift key.


> When the list is very long, I have to scroll to the +/- box

Maybe clicking to the left of an item in the column of its parent's +/- box could trigger the parent's collapse. Although currently on items that have their own +/- box will target it when you click to the left.

Or there is currently a pop up menu when you click on the name, that has "Assign selection here" and "Rename" on it. Maybe a minus box to collapse it could go under the X on that menu.


- Michael

Hi Michael,

Regarding the annotations, I wonder if it would be possible to add an arrow tool.

Currently, to do a simple arrow, I have to use a leader with blank text or, If I need a double arrow, use a linear dimension and modify it to remove the text and the dim extension. That's ok for the drawing but I don't like so much that it will mess up a bit the annotation types in the browser.

I think there should be a specific category in the browser for the arrows that goes inside Annotations.

I personally do not know which way would be better to implement this tool... It could be just a work around version of the dimension tool or something that allow you to select a line, a polyline or any open curve and apply the arrows. The first approach would be simpler however the second will allow you to draw Freeform arrows.

Finally, since there is a free spot in the Dim menu, can we add an icon for that tool? I believe it will perfectly complete the set!

Many thanks,
Salvatore

Hi Salvatore,

re:
> Regarding the annotations, I wonder if it would be possible to add an arrow tool.

I've attached an Arrow script, instructions on installing a plug-in here.

It makes a leader with a property set on it so the arrowhead automatically turns to be flat toward the viewing direction.

- Michael

Thanks Michael,

This is helpful! I really appreciate your quick response. However I think it would worth considering implementing a proper tool in the medium term.

As wrote before arrows should have their proper category in the browser and it would good to have the option for getting a double arrow. Moreover being able to draw curved arrows would be a plus... but I understand it may takes time.

Thanks anyway, I hope you liked my suggestion.

Salvatore

> Yes, if you hold down the Shift key before you click on a tag and keep Shift held down you can select other tags and they won't get triggered until you release the Shift key.

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> ...there is currently a pop up menu when you click on the name, ...Maybe a minus box to collapse it could go under the X on that menu.

Yes, perhaps to collapse its parent, although to my experience - more importantly to collapse the entire section, whether Objects, Types, or Styles.

Thank you Michael.

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MindSet

Hi MindSet,

re:
> Yes, perhaps to collapse its parent, although to my experience - more importantly to collapse the
> entire section, whether Objects, Types, or Styles.

What about if a right click anywhere between the eye/lock status column and the item name, basically were the +/- boxes and tree lines live, would collapse the parent?

- Michael

In the new object details / user text:
Can "add" button be always set to append?

Example:
Say a user puts in 10 key value rows and then fills
these in, then later, to add the 11th value
"add" puts the new row data set at the top of the list.

Alternative feature consideration: up/down arrows
could re-order the key values ( data rows ).

FROM...SCENE BROWSER / OBJECTS
Implement a way to jump straight into "DETAILS" of the object
from the scene browser, maybe right click, double click
or treble click. Does not matter how, matters its quick.

Result: Save users going to select objects on screen
and go to top right of interface "details button".

PDF EXPORT FEATURE REQUEST:

Consider check box
"use moi color background settings [viewport]"
This uses color value from: options/view/colors/background color
AND
Puts a colored layer behind all other MOI objects on the pdf
export.

Scope/Result:
Gives users sharp objects / clean vectors output
where the output looks exactly "as is" (or sharper)
than is on the MOI display port.

Arguably better than taking screenshots.
Effectively means the pdf output matches your
screen colors - so in the pdf options "shaded objects" are
selected and shown in front of your "viewport background color"

maybe two ways could be considered and both implemented:
Option 1. "AUTO"
Writes in moi viewport color on pdf export as back pdf layer.
this would allow for all sorts of pdf output sizes...
Option 2. "Presentation PDF"
refers to a pdf holder file in a moi folder and merges
moi content ontop of a:
Reference PDF which is created in another programme,
and is effectively used as "watermark" - allows branding etc.

Option 2 - would likely be used if setting output always
to single paper size say A4 - unless the moi pdf export had ways to pick
the pdf "watermark file" in a system folder.
------------------
Note this can be manually achieved in a clunky manner;

1.
simply create a massive planar shape behind the moi objects in the
desired viewport, and colour it same as the: options/view/colors/background color

OR
2.
Use a paid pdf printer and reprint the moi pdfs ontop of a new
background or "watermark". Adobe printer has this paid.
As does Bullzip pdf printer. Thats a two step process
and exactly what im trying to avoid.

DIM FEATURE REQUEST:

Text only "dims" can often loose contrast making "such important"
dimension information (usually for manufacturers) hard to see.

Allow "rect" call out features to have a background colour
assigned and consider other shapes, allow a "circular" or maybe "circular and square" etc.
Some examples of call out styles:
https://product.corel.com/help/Designer/Documentation-Windows/index.html?app=Corel-DESIGNER&lang=en#/l3TOC100

Scope:
Very useful if annotating dims and or leader
right on top of colored 2D and 3D objects.

Clunky Workaround, can use a reversed font, like this:
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Monofett?preview.text=123%20high%20contrast%20leaders

https://font.download/font/block-helvetica

https://www.whatfontis.com/GOOGLE_Monofett-regular.similar

hi

it would be good to be able to export in SKP version 2017 which is the latest free version of SKETCHUP.

( l serait bien de pouvoir exporter en version SKP 2017 qui est la dernière version gratuite de SKETCHUP )

Chri

you can use the Free Pcon Planner for have any versions of SKetchUp format export! ;)

https://pcon-solutions.com/fr/pcon-planner/ (here the French version! ;)

Hi stefano,

re:
> In the new object details / user text:
> Can "add" button be always set to append?

It's set up to work the same as the keyboard shortcut list.

When you add in a new one it's put at the top because that's closest to the "Add" button. It makes it easier to see what is going on as a result of pushing the button.

The next time the dialog is opened they will be displayed in alphabetical order, not in the order they were added.


> Alternative feature consideration: up/down arrows
> could re-order the key values ( data rows ).

To keep it simple it just uses alphabetical ordering.

- Michael

Hi stefano,

re:
> FROM...SCENE BROWSER / OBJECTS
> Implement a way to jump straight into "DETAILS" of the object
> from the scene browser, maybe right click, double click
> or treble click. Does not matter how, matters its quick.
>
> Result: Save users going to select objects on screen
> and go to top right of interface "details button".

You can set up a keyboard shortcut to open the "Details..." dialog by putting in this for the "Command" part of the shortcut key:

script: /* Show Details... */ moi.ui.createDialog( 'ObjectPropertiesDialog.htm', 'resizeable,defaultWidth:700,defaultHeight:500' );

The Detailed object properties dialog shows the properties of the current selected objects.

If you want an item in the scene browser to become the single selected object you can do that by right clicking on the selection dot.

A left click on the selection dot in the scene browser toggles selection of just that object on or off without changing any others. A right click selects that item and deselects everything else.

So with this set up you would do a shortcut key and then a right click on the scene browser item, you won't need to select in the viewport or move your mouse to the "Details..." button.

- Michael

Hi Chri,

re:
> it would be good to be able to export in SKP version 2017 which is the latest free version of SKETCHUP.

In MoI v5 there is a setting in moi.ini that you can use to control the version of the SKP file.

It's under:
[SKP]
SUModelVersion=Current


Try setting that to:
SUModelVersion=SU2016


The allowable versions are slightly different between the Mac and Windows MoI versions, on Mac you can set it to SU2017 and up to SU2021

On Windows currently the max is SU2016, I'll see if can remove this different limit for Windows.

- Michael

thanks for the clarifications Michael - makes sense !

Hi, Michael

Can we have z axis in custom CPlane always pointed to 'the sky' (absolute above) in 3D view? That's we keep the 'Rotation Style' to 'Rotate around world Z axis' within Options > View > Rotate/Pan/Zoom Options menu.



in this screenshot, the selected face will be better if facing to the sky in 3D view, i.e.: the TOP of cplane becomes the world z axis (temporarily), or in simple way: the z axis locked as the vertical axis in custom cplane 3D view.

The current state is quite 'dis-orienting' when we rotate the view around. And even better, the '3D' label will go like '3D (cplane)' like the other ortho views.

I do hope i've made myself clear.

Thank you very much in advance and pardon my English.

Cheers.

HI Michael

Setitng SUModelVersion=SU2016 works fine

thanks tou very much for your help and this magnificent soft

chri

Thanks Pilou
Excuse me, I hadn't seen your reply.

Merci Pilou
Excuses moi, je n'avait pas vu ta réponse.

chri

@ Chri C'est une sorte de moulinette à formats très pratique!
Et son catalogue "mondial" d'objets en direct est un must! ;)

Free Pconplanner
Multi formast converter very useful!
And objects catalog in diect a must!