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 From:  Michael Gibson
10114.590 In reply to 10114.589 
Hi SUIYAN, unfortunately these areas you are asking about are quite difficult and will require a lot of work. So they are not likely to happen anytime soon.

- Michael
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 From:  大道刀 (SUIYAN)
10114.591 In reply to 10114.590 
Hi Michael
>我希望Nside产生的面是一个完整的面,而不是缝合的。(I hope that the surface generated by Nside is a complete surface, not join)

突然想到,Nside问题不需要直接形成完整曲面而是通过合并布尔。还记得这个讨论吗?Suddenly, it occurred to me that the problem with Nside does not require directly forming a complete surface, but rather through Boolean Union. Do you still remember this discussion?

(http://moi3d.com/forum/messages.php?webtag=MOI&msg=11426.1)

You Said> in the future I would like to enable more cases where surfaces can get merged with Boolean Union. Currently it's only supported for 2 coplanar planes or when the 2 surfaces are trimmed pieces of the same larger underlying surface.

我想完成这些,就可以通过布尔形成完整的曲面了。(I want to complete these so that I can form a complete surface through Boolean.)
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10114.592 In reply to 10114.591 
Hi SUIYAN,

> You Said> in the future I would like to enable more cases where surfaces can get
> merged with Boolean Union. Currently it's only supported for 2 coplanar planes
> or when the 2 surfaces are trimmed pieces of the same larger underlying surface.

Right, that will be for things like the 2 surfaces are pieces of some larger surface like 2 pieces of a sphere with the same center and radius, or 2 extrusions from the same base curve and direction.

The surfaces from NSided are not like that.

- Michael
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 From:  Sönke (S-LUDWIG)
10114.593 
A few UI enhancements for improving the already very good default experience:
- Have the Objects/Type/Styles sections already open at startup (or remember their state across starts)
- Option to separate the Construct/Transform sections: I personally find myself switching between the two frequently and for 27" or larger screens there is enough vertical space to make both directly accessible
- Configure some default keyboard shortcuts for various frequently used tools: This greatly increases the efficiency and it's kind of hard to find out the right commands for configuring those manually

Since the added grouping support in V5 allows to construct more complex designs, it would be nice to have a variation on the orbit mechanics that rotates around the first point of contact below the mouse cursor. Same goes for zoom and pan for scaling the speed/step size. This would allow comfortably working on details in parts of the model that are further from the origin.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10114.594 In reply to 10114.593 
Why don't use this sort of floating window ?
https://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9758.1
But you must see all the thread if you want some more refinements! ;)

EDITED: 20 Jun by PILOU

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10114.595 
Seems the floating window still works on V4 ! :)
but not on Beta V5! :(
https://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9758.1

My Shortcut seems good!


I have only this ! (no error message)

When I right Click on it (red x) : i have only Move & Size clickable
Move is Ok
Size don't works! :(

EDITED: 20 Jun by PILOU

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 From:  pressure (PEER)
10114.596 In reply to 10114.593 
Hi Sönke,

Re:
> it would be nice to have a variation on the orbit mechanics that rotates
> around the first point of contact below the mouse cursor.

That exists now with the Area widget:


The first step in Area is picking a 3D point. That becomes the new pivot point for orbiting.

Another way set the pivot point is with Reset. The new pivot point is the center of the selection that exists when Reset is clicked.

- Peer
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 From:  Sönke (S-LUDWIG)
10114.597 In reply to 10114.594 
> Why don't use this sort of floating window ?

That might be an alternative, although it makes sense to use the space that is already available in the side bar. But, although I know that you can customize a lot, I think it would be nice to have a few basic things available by default, as my guess (could be wrong of course) is that most users don't even go as far as using a pre-made script.
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 From:  Sönke (S-LUDWIG)
10114.598 In reply to 10114.596 
Thanks, I didn't realize that, good to know! This definitely has its advantages over the proposed orbit mode. On the other hand, a navigation mode like that would be more dynamic (less clicks/mode switches) and is very popular in all kinds of 3D software, so IMO it would still make sense - especially considering that there are already multiple alternative modes and it wouldn't really add complexity to the UI.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10114.599 In reply to 10114.593 
Hi Sönke, thanks for this feedback.

re:
> - Have the Objects/Type/Styles sections already open at startup (or remember their state across starts)

See here for how to set that up:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9157.2


> - Option to separate the Construct/Transform sections: I personally find myself switching between the two
> frequently and for 27" or larger screens there is enough vertical space to make both directly accessible

For separating all of them, see here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9439.3

For separating just Construct/Transform here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6507.487


> - Configure some default keyboard shortcuts for various frequently used tools: This greatly
> increases the efficiency and it's kind of hard to find out the right commands for configuring
> those manually

There is a list of command names here:
https://moi3d.com/4.0/docs/moi_command_reference11.htm#shortcutkeys

The design for shortcut keys in MoI is that only a basic set common to all apps like copy/paste are defined by default. Other shortcuts can be defined by the user according to their preferences.

MoI was actually designed initially to be able to function without needing the keyboard at all.


Thanks,
- Michael
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 From:  大道刀 (SUIYAN)
10114.600 In reply to 10114.595 
HI Pilou

可能你需要覆盖一下SidePane1.htm文件到D:\Program Files\MoI 5.0\ui
(Perhaps you need to overwrite the SidePane1.htm file to D: \ Program Files \ MoI 5.0 \ ui)


并重新设置快捷键(And reset the shortcut keys):script: var panel = null; try { panel = moi.ui.getUIPanel( 'moi://ui/SidePane1.htm' ); } catch(e){} if ( panel ) { panel.moiWindow.close(); } else { moi.ui.createDialog( 'SidePane1.htm' ); }

有时可能需要重新设置以能够正确调用(Sometimes it may be necessary to reset to be able to call correctly)
也可能只是你的快捷键设置的问题,我遇到过这样的问题,请先重新设置快捷键,而不要冒然替换SidePane1.htm以避免出现新的问题(有时两个值都能完成调用,但只要一个值能够保证不失效。你需要这个值。)
(It may also be just a problem with your shortcut key settings. I have encountered such a problem before. Please reset the shortcut key first, and do not replace SidePane1.htm recklessly to avoid new problems (sometimes both values can be called, but only one value can be guaranteed to not be invalid. You need this value.)

EDITED: 20 Jun by SUIYAN

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10114.601 In reply to 10114.600 
In fact seems i had an old version of the SidePane1.htm !

But thx for the infos!
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Pilou
Is beautiful that please without concept!
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 From:  Bob (APTIVABOY)
10114.602 
I'd love to see one thing in particular...


Open/Save as 3DM Version 7. Currently, I'm having to use converters to open V7 3DMs converted to V5, and they don't always work well. Having this ability natively would be a huge boon.
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