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From: Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
10 May 2021   [#27]
Thank you guys :)

By the way could anyone of u compare Onshape with 123D Design? it terms of lightweightness & filleting ability?

I also faced few problems regarding Uninstallation of Fusion 360 (I know this is not a place to seek help for that ;) but I thought maybe any one of you could help, So, If u think you can help I will tell u what my problem is!)
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10 May 2021   [#28] In reply to [#27]
OnShape is a monster like Fusion 360! ;)
123D is a lighter one !
both can resolve some of complex fillets

Uninstall fusion 360 must be done (in windows) like usual other progs!
Config Panel / Uninstall Progs...
From: Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
10 May 2021   [#29] In reply to [#28]
> Uninstall fusion 360 must be done (in windows) like usual other progs!
Config Panel / Uninstall Progs

Yes it should be like what you mentioned above, except the fact that it doesn't work! Windows was not able to uninstall it ;)

So, I did a research and found this:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-do-a-clean-uninstall-of-Autodesk-Fusion-360.html

According to above website :

1-Go to the Start Menu > Control Panel > Uninstall Programs.
2-Select the existing Autodesk Fusion 360 entry from the list and click Uninstall.
-> *Sometimes this step will not work depending on what happened to the installation files. If that is the case move onto the manual deletion steps below)*

In my case this didn't work! So, I went to this link:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-do-an-automatic-Clean-Uninstall-for-Autodesk-Fusion-360.html

and downloaded "Fusion_360_Cleaner.zip for Windows" and then executed it! It seems it was able to remove Fusion 360. But my problem is that when I go to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features I still see Fusion 360 ( however the icon is not there but it says it has occupied 2.54 GB on my drive!

Edit: I just need a companion program for MOI to do the fillet job! While I am waiting for MOI to improve its filleting abilities :)
So, I am looking for a preferably lightweight and free/open source program. if you have worked with Onshape & 123D Design before which one you suggest?
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10 May 2021   [#30] In reply to [#29]
123 Design will be perfect because it's very easy!
Design Spark Mechanical 5.0 (free) is less easy and export / import with Moi is a little tricky!
OnShape is middle easy and only Online...
From: Ken (OKURO)
10 May 2021   [#31] In reply to [#25]
YES: it is the official site !
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10 May 2021   [#32] In reply to [#31]
This one yes but... no link to 123D progs! ;)
https://www.autodesk.com/solutions/123d-apps
From: mdesign
10 May 2021   [#33]
Which version of 123d design is that? I think it`s the first iteration because later layers were turned off. I can`t find that old version with layers. Do you think that the older version is better than the newer one? I think it won`t try to connect with Autodesk and those layers are useful.

Do you have any opinions about that version from that screenshot?



Cheers!!!

Image Attachments:
autodesk-123d-screenshot.jpg 


From: Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
10 May 2021   [#34] In reply to [#33]
How about the fillet power?
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10 May 2021   [#35] In reply to [#33]
Why not click n the button "?" on the Top right screen ? ;)
From: mdesign
11 May 2021   [#36] In reply to [#35]
This was answer to my question?

Because I don`t have this software only print screen from net :) it`s hard to click anything on the image ;)
I can`t find this particular version. I`ve found others but not this one.
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11 May 2021   [#37] In reply to [#36]
From this "French Site" it's more a beta 123D (6.1) for Fusion 360...
Scroll/Click the Horizontal images : your is N°7 / 9
I believe that you can download it! Will be in English! ;)
Only for Windows! (not tested because i have yet 123DDesign 2.2.14 and Fusion ;)
https://autodesk-123d.fr.softonic.com
From: Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
21 May 2021   [#38]
Hello to all,

Does anyone have any idea why moi cannot perform fillets on my hexagonal objects while it can perform fillets on pentagonal ones?

Attachments:
Soccer_Ball_Fillet_Problem.3dm


From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
21 May 2021   [#39] In reply to [#38]
Maybe because is like to try to fillet a sphere ?
From: ed (EDDYF)
21 May 2021   [#40] In reply to [#39]
DRILLBIT -

If I select the solid(s) then I can fillet up to around 0.5. If I select just the outer face I can't get a fillet. Sometimes fillet needs multiple faces to be selected. I suspect it has to do with the smaller angle.

Michael would need to give the technical explanation - I just know what works :)

Ed Ferguson
From: Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
21 May 2021   [#41] In reply to [#39]
Hi PILOU,

No! I don't think its the case then why MOI is able to perform fillets on pentagonal objects?
From: Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
21 May 2021   [#42] In reply to [#40]
Hi ed!

That works! haha

What a simple and useful trick! thanks :)

Yes, I'd be happy to know the technical explanation (@Michael)
From: Michael Gibson
21 May 2021   [#43] In reply to [#38]
Hi Psygorn,

re:
> Does anyone have any idea why moi cannot perform fillets on my hexagonal objects
> while it can perform fillets on pentagonal ones?

I tested selecting this hexagonal piece:


And then I put a fillet of radius 0.2 on it which seemed to be fine:


I'll need some more details about what is not working over there for you.

- Michael

Image Attachments:
psygorn_fillet1.jpg  psygorn_fillet2.jpg 


From: Michael Gibson
21 May 2021   [#44] In reply to [#40]
Hi Ed,

re:
> Sometimes fillet needs multiple faces to be selected. I suspect it has to do with the smaller angle.

When you target only some edges coming out from a shared vertex location instead of all edges it's a much more difficult calculation for the filleter to do because it has to extend and intersect fillet surfaces against each other rather than being able to have the fillets come to a corner junction patch which doesn't need intersections.

- Michael
From: Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
21 May 2021   [#45] In reply to [#43]
Hi Michael,

if you select other hexagonal pieces and try to perform fillet on them (let's say 0.2) you may not get a fillet!

Important: I don't want the inner edges to have fillets (simply because they are not visible) So please select a face (just outer Hexagonal face) and try to fillet it I believe fillet won't work!

And one more thing when you select all hexagonal shapes and fillet them then you cannot Boolean Union them. but if you don't fillet them Boolean Union works.
From: Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
21 May 2021   [#46] In reply to [#44]
Hi Michael,

Even when I select edges that are not coming from a shared vertex I don't get a fillet for this particular example! I have a solution to my problem but I am just curious as to why fillet doesn't work for hexagonal pieces here! but it works for pentagonal ones!

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