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From: val2
22 Apr 2023   [#61]
not sure if the counts as a bug. i created a sphere, cut a section off, copied it, fillet the new edges, one as acis one as solid. the solid works well, the acis is lumpy on the not filleted section. when i mesh both of them the acis is not smooth whereas the solid is perfect.







Val
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
22 Apr 2023   [#62] In reply to [#61]
Try to rotate the curve generator! ;)


From: val2
22 Apr 2023   [#63] In reply to [#62]
It's on purpose not on the curve generator.
From: Michael Gibson
22 Apr 2023   [#64] In reply to [#61]
Hi Val, this is probably a bug in ACIS filleting, in the conversion from ACIS geometry back to Solids++ geometry.

Do you have a version of this file before doing the fillet?

- Michael
From: val2
22 Apr 2023   [#65] In reply to [#64]
No, but it's easily replicated. if you look at the file you can see where I cut the sphere with a line. I have done it a number of times, always with the same result on the bigger section.
From: Michael Gibson
22 Apr 2023   [#66] In reply to [#65]
Hi Val, thanks - I can repeat it over here although it's not quite as messy as your version. It should be good enough for me to debug it though.

Thanks,
- Michael
From: blowlamp
23 Apr 2023   [#67]
Hi Michael.
I'm having a problem with filleting the six holes on this part. The flat rear face works OK, but not the front face. The fillet size I'm applying is 1mm.

Thanks.
Martin.

Attachments:
Flange.3dm


From: Michael Gibson
23 Apr 2023   [#68] In reply to [#67]
Hi Martin,

re:
> I'm having a problem with filleting the six holes on this part. The flat rear face works OK,
> but not the front face. The fillet size I'm applying is 1mm.

Can you please check which version of Moi you are running?

The front edges are working ok for me in the current Apr-13-2023 v5 beta.

- Michael
From: WN
23 Apr 2023   [#69] In reply to [#67]
Hi Martin.

It is necessary to replace the surface, for some reason it prevents rounding.

The same is true for the chamfer.
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/uJfij4c_N_WDug

In version 4 , it can be done this way ...

image host
From: blowlamp
23 Apr 2023   [#70] In reply to [#68]
Hi Michael.
It might have helped my query if I'd used the right word... It is actually a 1mm chamfer that I can not get to work on these six holes, so please accept my apologies for sending you off in the wrong direction. I'm using the V5 beta Apr-13-2023.

Martin.
From: christian (CHRI)
24 Apr 2023   [#71] In reply to [#70]
HI blowlamp

You can't do the chamfer because forms are not circles and not cylinder
.
Please take a look on the next files and try to make the chamfer

Chri

Attachments:
Flange03.3dm

Image Attachments:
EXPLANATION.png 


From: blowlamp
24 Apr 2023   [#72] In reply to [#71]
Hi Christian.
Whatever you did made it possible for me to chamfer those holes, so thank you for looking into this for me.
It still leaves a mystery though, as the holes were created from circles generated by MoI.
I positioned the first circle at 12 O'Clock on the front face and Circular Arrayed the other 5. I then did a Boolean Merge to cut the holes from those 6 circles.

I just tried remaking the solid from the Revolve curves and then using 6 fresh circles from an Array. The result is still the same for me. :-(


Thanks again.
Martin.
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
24 Apr 2023   [#73]
With the file of the Start...thread
https://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=11056.67
I select all the perimeters then Fillet (1mm)
Fails with the Solid++
No problem with the Ascis ! ;)


From: blowlamp
24 Apr 2023   [#74] In reply to [#73]
Hi Pilou.

Try it with a Chamfer instead of a Fillet.

Martin.
From: blowlamp
24 Apr 2023   [#75] In reply to [#69]
Hi WN.

Thanks for trying to solve this for me.
It seems like there might be a problem with where the holes are positioned on the front face. If I redo the layout, so that one hole in the group of holes is positioned at 3 O'Clock, rather than at 12 O'Clock, then the Chamfer works OK.


Martin.
From: Michael Gibson
24 Apr 2023   [#76] In reply to [#75]
Hi Martin, the problem kind of originates from the Revolve, because the plane that you're drilling holes into is being created as a surface of revolution that is flat rather than as an analytic plane surface.

There is a mechanism in Revolve that is supposed to replace those surfaces with a trimmed plane surface but it does not appear to be working here, I am investigating it.

Thanks, - Michael
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
24 Apr 2023   [#77] In reply to [#74]
Indeed that fails with Chamfer!
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
24 Apr 2023   [#78]
I redraw from 0 the disc /cylinders... not on the generator curve (maybe not the root problem but more prudent! :)
(not the groove piece you can copy it if necessary...
like this all perimeters are plenty and not trimmed! ;)
So
No problem! :)
https://moiscript.weebly.com/uploads/3/9/3/8/3938813/flange1.3dm
there are 2 models for make yours tests!
Solid ++ or Acis
Chamfer or Fillets 1 mm
From: Robert (ROBERT_S)
24 Apr 2023   [#79]
Hello, any idea when will be full release available? Thank you.
From: Michael Gibson
24 Apr 2023   [#80] In reply to [#79]
Hi Robert,

re:
> Hello, any idea when will be full release available? Thank you.

Sorry no I don't have a specific release date set yet.

- Michael

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