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Hi Steve,

Thanks for providing all of that, it's greatly appreciated.

I followed each of your directions but at the: "cat /etc/os-release" there was something like "nothing found" or "no file"...
Figured "that" response might've been correct so continued on following your directions.
Each following command did run & supposedly got to the end requiring the [Y/n] entry, to which I did "Y".
That was it for Terminal, nothing more happend...

At this point with my previous attempts, the Application Menu now had the "Wine" sub-menu.
In the last of those attempts, I needed to restart to get the sub-menu to populate with the "winecfg"

Following your directions, this time there was NO "Wine" sub-menu..?
Using the past experience, I rebooted & still no "Wine" sub-menu...
Did a Terminal command: dpkg --list *wine* ,resulting in: dpkg-query: no packages found matching

So at this point I appear to have done everything "by the book" yet it's failed to provide me with any results.
I might go back the the "Flatpak" install which at least gave me a full Wine 9 install & try installing MoI V4 again.

HTH, Colin

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It's odd that you didn't get anything from the cat command, I copied/pasted the string you wrote and got exactly what I expected.
There isn't any reason to have Wine in your application list. This is not an issue.

When you install Moi (after Wine), a desktop icon should be created. In my desktop icon, If I right click and choose Properties, this is the command string:
env WINEPREFIX="/home/steve/.wine" wine C:\\Program\ Files\\MoI\ 4.0\\moi.exe
I'm pretty sure this was created when I installed Moi (after installing Wine).

You should have a desktop icon for the programs that will run under Wine, mine is labeled Wine-C representing the C drive on a Windows machine. Dig down to C:\Program Files\Moi 4.0\moi.exe
You should be able to right click moi.exe and choose Open With -> Wine and start the program.

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Hi Steve,

What you described about Wine & its C Drive was what I had previously with the Software Manager installed "Flatpak".
The "difference" was that mine had the Wine sub-folder in the LM Menu, as per the description on the LM Forum link you'd previously posted.

> "In the Linux Mint application menu, there should be a new submenu titled Wine. Inside the Wine sub-menu you will find among a few other items, the item "Configure Wine" (winecfg)."

Having purged everything once again & Timeshited back again to 3 days ago before I attempted any Wine istalls, I tried reinstalling the "Flatpak"...
This time the Software Manager refused to install a certain number of files & so it appears I've now manged to "break" something..?
Another Terminal purge, another Timeshift, another reboot & that's where I'm leaving it...

Linux Mint is working perfectly fine for all my other needs, I've installed VitualBox with W7 & that gives me an older Xara V9 to open my current Graphics files I'm working on via the VM.
Unfortunately even though I've installed my MoI V3 in that same VBox, the VM Graphics drivers wont allow MoI V3 to display anything within its Views...
Everything else related to MoI V3 at this point appears to be working except the View ports...
(I tried enabling "3D Acceleration" within VBox Display settings but it refuses to engage)
So the argument by various Linux Forum Users to "just use a VM for ANY Windows programs" doesn't seem valid or apply for MoI in this case..?

Having access to my old MoI files via either VirtualBox or Wine whilst on Linux Mint means I can walk away from Windows without any regrets...
Despite all of my researching prior to this migration over to Linux, it hasn't been as easy as the research suggested.

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Hi Colin,

re:
> So the argument by various Linux Forum Users to "just use a VM for ANY Windows
> programs" doesn't seem valid or apply for MoI in this case..?

Well it gets more difficult with programs that need to access the GPU like MoI or many games.

It looks like there is some info here:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=99224

It looks like you need to include Direct3D support when you install VirtualBox not just set it as an runtime setting?

And it sounds like maybe you need to use an older version of VirtualBox because some GPU functionality was removed from current versions because of security holes?

- Michael

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Hi Micheal,

Thanks for the link & added info.
I'll go do more reading on including the Direct3D support part.
I'm running the VirtualBox package which is available via the Linux Mint Software Manager.

Everything I've done has been based on the following YouTube info from Christopher Barnatt's "ExplainingComputers" channel.
https://youtu.be/kN1MWBa3yiw?si=2qNoacS-wfN_Ec2d

In an effort to help minimise the chances of conflicts for myself, I tried installing only the stuff offered through the LM Software Manager...
Obviously that choice is now starting to present me with problems as I try to getting my preferred Windows programs into place.
Having now "broken" something related to the attempted Wine installs, I'm even more hesitant to start changing out Vbox...

The W7 within VBox has installed itself various Windows Updates, which I've allowed in the hope there's something needed for MoI...
That VBox W7 is running my old Xara PGD V9 just fine, so I just need the installed MoI V3 to run & my old "Graphics package" will be sorted

regards Colin

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Hi Michael,

After some research on the VitrualBox Forum I found a solution for MoI V3 display problem.
Please see attached screen capture of Display settings.

So with Linux Mint 22 running its own Software Manager installed VirtualBox & my "guest" VM W7 is running both MoI V3 & Xara V9

With that now solved & my W7 being x64, is MoI V4 able to run on W7 x64..?
If so then I can upgrade to it & thus avoid my current issues with installing Wine.

regards Colin

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Hi Colin, that's great! Yes, MoI v4 will run on Windows 7, 64-bit only not 32-bit.

Moi v3 was able to run with extremely low amounts of video memory, v4 needs a little more (a byproduct of Direct3D11) for baseline so you may need to increase the amount in your VM settings.

- Michael

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