Full Version: V5 beta Feb-8-2025 available now

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Since we're in the middle of June, this particular beta build should be expiring soon, correct?

Asking because I lost track.

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Hi Spartan,

If you look at help/About Moi, you will see Expires on Nov-28-2025

Have fun !

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> Expires on Nov-28-2025

Got it.

Incidentally, is there a way to set an expiration date for the program so that it won't expire, or is that a server-side thing?

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Hi Spartan,

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> Incidentally, is there a way to set an expiration date for the program so that it won't expire, or is that a server-side thing?

Beta versions are set up to expire but the full version won't.

- Michael

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Allow me to clarify: I meant my question in regards to beta builds.

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Hi Spartan,

re:
> Allow me to clarify: I meant my question in regards to beta builds.

Beta builds are designed to expire.

Once the beta test period is complete there will be a non-beta full release made and the full release versions do not expire.

Thanks, - Michael

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Right, right. What I'm asking is how the programming handles that bit. Is there a specific file that contains the expiration date and relevant code? And if that's the case, can the files be modified?

Just curious.

(I'd also like to apologize if I seem like I'm not making sense. I struggle with phrasing my queries in a clear manner, as a neurodivergent individual.)

(side note: thanks for adding SVG import/export. I use MoI as part of my workflow for vector graphics and 3D animation, in addition to CAD. Adding SVG import/export makes it much easier, especially since I don't have to worry about any loss of data - and thus, potential loss of detail - when using intermediary formats like PDF like I used to.)

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Hi Spartan,

re:
> What I'm asking is how the programming handles that bit. Is there a specific file that contains the expiration date and relevant code?

Yes, it's part of the code in the main program module file moi_lib.dll .


> And if that's the case, can the files be modified?

Yes, it's possible to do that, it's called "cracking":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_cracking

But usually it's done by people who are distributing pirated versions of the software.

- Michael

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Gotcha.

Admittedly, I had entertained the idea of cracking - though:

A.) I'd put the kibosh on the idea after thinking it through, and:
B.) it woulda been for personal use anyway had I cracked it,

so there's that.

That said, my line of thinking often goes toward "can it be done" more than "should it be done" and "what are the repercussions thereof" - hence my asking in the first place.

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Further question: is there (at minimum) one more beta build after this, or is V5's public release the next release?

(also, will V5 be the same price as V4 when it releases?)

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Hi Spartan,

re:
> Further question: is there (at minimum) one more beta build after this, or
> is V5's public release the next release?

There will be at least one more beta.


> (also, will V5 be the same price as V4 when it releases?)

Yes.

Thanks,
- Michael

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Right. Thanks. Just wanted to be sure.

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Hi all,

It’s been a while since I last posted here—probably around 2012 or 2013.
I’m wondering: is there a non-commercial (NFS) version of MoI3D available?
€300 feels a bit steep for occasional hobby use.

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Hi Rich, there is an EDU discount version available for students or teachers. Contact me at moi@moi3d.com for ordering that version, it's available from different resellers depending on where you are located.

There isn't any hobbyist discount version, sorry.

Thanks, - Michael

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Thanks, I’ll contact you.

Regards,

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Funny enough, I still have an EDU key.

Tom Meeks (who's made a few tutorials for MoI, and who I've personally worked with) was able to secure some for the Youthquest Foundation - and I was among the lucky folks who got to work with him. Even after his organization merged with the school I attended, PHILLIPS Programs (private school for special needs kids like me), and even after graduating three years ago, I still have the EDU V4 key I was provided... though I'm likely gonna buy the standard key, since I'm not in school any more, and thus, using the EDU key would be quite imprudent.

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Hi Spartan, yes Tom Meeks has done a great job teaching kids how to build interesting things using MOI.

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> and thus, using the EDU key would be quite imprudent.

Actually it isn't a problem - you can use your EDU license key for any kind of work, it is not restricted.

- Michael

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Fair enough.

In any case, I'm looking forward to the next release.

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Hi,
I use V4 after having upgraded from V3. As such, I don't have a V4 license; only a v3. Is there any way that I can access the V5 beta or would I need to purchase a new license for V4?
Thanks!

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Hi Rio, you can use the v5 beta with any version 4 license including a v4 upgrade license.

You can put in your v4 upgrade license which starts with VER4UPG into the license key field at https://moi3d.com/beta.htm .

If you are having a problem with your v4 upgrade license not working there please send it to me at moi@moi3d.com .

- Michael

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