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From: Michael Gibson
1 May   [#36] In reply to [#35]
Hi Rich, the error on upload will happen if the file is too large, like more than 10Mb.

For large files you'll need to use a file sharing service like WeTransfer, Dropbox, OneDrive, etc... where you upload the file there and share a link to it. You can e-mail the link to me at moi@moi3d.com if you want to keep it private.

What operating system are you running on?

If you're on Windows it would probably be a good idea to update your video driver to the latest version from the video card vendor's web site.

- Michael
From: Rich (-RB-)
2 May   [#37]
Hey - sent you a link to file cheers!
From: binfordboy
7 May   [#38]
Hi Michael,
the .fbx import is misisng on this version

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From: Michael Gibson
7 May   [#39] In reply to [#38]
Hi binfordboy, since FBX files contain polygon mesh data and not CAD data, you can write out to an FBX file but not import it in to MoI.

Some more info on that here:
https://moi3d.com/faq#Q:_Why_can_I_export_to_.obj_format.2C_but_cannot_read_.obj_format_into_MoI.3F

The exception to that is if you are doing a sub-d surface conversion. In that case the sub-d importer is on the side pane under SubD > Create > "From file". That can process .obj or .fbx files that contain sub-d control cages.

- Michael
From: SPARTAN-D421 (SIERRA-D421)
21 Jun   [#40]
Since we're in the middle of June, this particular beta build should be expiring soon, correct?

Asking because I lost track.
From: Phiro
21 Jun   [#41] In reply to [#40]
Hi Spartan,

If you look at help/About Moi, you will see Expires on Nov-28-2025

Have fun !
From: SPARTAN-D421 (SIERRA-D421)
26 Jun   [#42] In reply to [#41]
> Expires on Nov-28-2025

Got it.

Incidentally, is there a way to set an expiration date for the program so that it won't expire, or is that a server-side thing?
From: Michael Gibson
26 Jun   [#43] In reply to [#42]
Hi Spartan,

re:
> Incidentally, is there a way to set an expiration date for the program so that it won't expire, or is that a server-side thing?

Beta versions are set up to expire but the full version won't.

- Michael
From: SPARTAN-D421 (SIERRA-D421)
3 Jul   [#44] In reply to [#43]
Allow me to clarify: I meant my question in regards to beta builds.
From: Michael Gibson
3 Jul   [#45] In reply to [#44]
Hi Spartan,

re:
> Allow me to clarify: I meant my question in regards to beta builds.

Beta builds are designed to expire.

Once the beta test period is complete there will be a non-beta full release made and the full release versions do not expire.

Thanks, - Michael
From: SPARTAN-D421 (SIERRA-D421)
5 Jul   [#46] In reply to [#45]
Right, right. What I'm asking is how the programming handles that bit. Is there a specific file that contains the expiration date and relevant code? And if that's the case, can the files be modified?

Just curious.

(I'd also like to apologize if I seem like I'm not making sense. I struggle with phrasing my queries in a clear manner, as a neurodivergent individual.)

(side note: thanks for adding SVG import/export. I use MoI as part of my workflow for vector graphics and 3D animation, in addition to CAD. Adding SVG import/export makes it much easier, especially since I don't have to worry about any loss of data - and thus, potential loss of detail - when using intermediary formats like PDF like I used to.)
From: Michael Gibson
5 Jul   [#47] In reply to [#46]
Hi Spartan,

re:
> What I'm asking is how the programming handles that bit. Is there a specific file that contains the expiration date and relevant code?

Yes, it's part of the code in the main program module file moi_lib.dll .


> And if that's the case, can the files be modified?

Yes, it's possible to do that, it's called "cracking":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_cracking

But usually it's done by people who are distributing pirated versions of the software.

- Michael
From: SPARTAN-D421 (SIERRA-D421)
5 Jul   [#48] In reply to [#47]
Gotcha.

Admittedly, I had entertained the idea of cracking - though:

A.) I'd put the kibosh on the idea after thinking it through, and:
B.) it woulda been for personal use anyway had I cracked it,

so there's that.

That said, my line of thinking often goes toward "can it be done" more than "should it be done" and "what are the repercussions thereof" - hence my asking in the first place.
From: SPARTAN-D421 (SIERRA-D421)
14 Jul   [#49] In reply to [#48]
Further question: is there (at minimum) one more beta build after this, or is V5's public release the next release?

(also, will V5 be the same price as V4 when it releases?)
From: Michael Gibson
14 Jul   [#50] In reply to [#49]
Hi Spartan,

re:
> Further question: is there (at minimum) one more beta build after this, or
> is V5's public release the next release?

There will be at least one more beta.


> (also, will V5 be the same price as V4 when it releases?)

Yes.

Thanks,
- Michael
From: SPARTAN-D421 (SIERRA-D421)
15 Jul   [#51] In reply to [#50]
Right. Thanks. Just wanted to be sure.
From: Rich_Art
3 Aug   [#52]
Hi all,

It’s been a while since I last posted here—probably around 2012 or 2013.
I’m wondering: is there a non-commercial (NFS) version of MoI3D available?
€300 feels a bit steep for occasional hobby use.
From: Michael Gibson
3 Aug   [#53] In reply to [#52]
Hi Rich, there is an EDU discount version available for students or teachers. Contact me at moi@moi3d.com for ordering that version, it's available from different resellers depending on where you are located.

There isn't any hobbyist discount version, sorry.

Thanks, - Michael
From: Rich_Art
3 Aug   [#54] In reply to [#53]
Thanks, I’ll contact you.

Regards,
From: SPARTAN-D421 (SIERRA-D421)
4 Aug   [#55] In reply to [#53]
Funny enough, I still have an EDU key.

Tom Meeks (who's made a few tutorials for MoI, and who I've personally worked with) was able to secure some for the Youthquest Foundation - and I was among the lucky folks who got to work with him. Even after his organization merged with the school I attended, PHILLIPS Programs (private school for special needs kids like me), and even after graduating three years ago, I still have the EDU V4 key I was provided... though I'm likely gonna buy the standard key, since I'm not in school any more, and thus, using the EDU key would be quite imprudent.

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