thanks brian,

i'll check it out. i was just about to post a hack i did of your script to give you and idea of what i was thinking. but let me see what you have here. i noticed one thing with the previous scripts. they don't use the hub end point input. what that input is for is to make a circle at the point specified. the circle would be in the top view and use the point on the 1/4 chord line. the first point being counted as 1. so it should be relatively easy. since that input would just be making a circle. i was able to use trial and error and beat the script into submission. however, i don't know enough to actually add something to it. i was just editing what existed.

anthony