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 From:  RayCAD1962 (RAYCAD003)
9835.1 
Dear all,

Does anyone encounter or notice this problem when you apply fillet for a whole box corners.

I explain, if you draw a box of 5mm to be filleting with 2.5mm from each corner.

You can't fillet the corner with that value but if you enter 2.49mm is OK but 2.5mm you can't.

Can you someone explain to me why because if there is a routine in the fillet command is not doing the job.

If you have the fillet command correctly do their job I love to someone send it to me.

Thanks a lot for your help.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9835.2 In reply to 9835.1 
No problem...depending of the nature of the fillet!

EDITED: 6 Jun 2020 by PILOU

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 From:  RayCAD1962 (RAYCAD003)
9835.3 In reply to 9835.2 
Dear PILOU,

I understand your point and your effort but still you can't do it 2.5mm to every corner with circular.

Thanks anyway.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9835.4 In reply to 9835.1 
Hi Ray - that's because using a value of 2.5mm in that case would cause some of the original object's faces to be completely consumed by the fillet. The fillet engine does not handle that situation currently.

- Michael
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 From:  RayCAD1962 (RAYCAD003)
9835.5 In reply to 9835.4 
Dear Michael Gibson,

OK, I understand your meaning but could this problem be fixed in the future or not.

Thank you very much for your answer but I understand.

MOI 3D is something for me and that's why I care.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9835.6 
Not a big deal to make a fillet 2.5 on a cube 5.01*5.01*5.01
Then an Orient Line/Line of the "dome" to a cube 5*5*5



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 From:  Michael Gibson
9835.7 In reply to 9835.5 
Hi Ray,

re:
> OK, I understand your meaning but could this problem be fixed in the future or not.
>
> Thank you very much for your answer but I understand.

It could be possible to fix in the future but it's not an easy thing to fix, it will take quite a bit of work.

- Michael
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 From:  Phiro
9835.8 
Hi,

I think, it's a real unsolvable problem.
The nature of the face is to be a face with a surface and a perimeter.

Here, if you fillet with 2.5 the face is becoming null (a single point which is another nature of object), so it's like willing divide by 0.

the only possibilty to be near with filleting, I think, is cheating with 2.499.
You will have on UI a 2.5 written but in real a microface is done so you don't have a perfect dome like you want.

The problem, it seems, is you want a modification on the nature of the top face when the top is a single point.

So you can design it but you have to model it without fillet and model with a single top point, so the nature of the top is a point and not a face.

You can use :
- a rail revolve to do it with a square as rail curve with a master curve beginning from the "center top" you want.
- a network job with edges you want. Edges made with a master curve and a array/circular transform (to have your 4 edges of the dome)
- perhaps another exists...

If the program search during a filleting a aberration on a single point face to fix it, the problem is the same with a face becoming a single line (case of filleting rectangle 5x10) or a face becoming a curve on others cases.

Filleting is a very cool tool, but it has some limits.
If we want go beyond the limits, we have to search others solutions.

Have fun !
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9835.9 In reply to 9835.8 
you don't want of my little solution before an hypothetic native tool? :)
https://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9835.6
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 From:  corchet
9835.10 In reply to 9835.9 
s'il n'en veut pas ... c'est qu'il ne te mérite pas ! ;)
























halte au fillet rond sinon ! ;) marre

fillet accidentel
fillet tour du truc en rail revolve
fillet blend sparadrap
fillet sur boule
fillet boite à pilules
fillet volants
fillet à facettes
et parce qu'on ne sait jamais ... le fillet parachute

hop

EDITED: 9 Sep 2020 by CORCHET

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9835.11 
What a profusion of Fillets!
(@ Corchet : ne pas confondre avec un filet à provisions! :)

EDITED: 7 Jun 2020 by PILOU

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