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 From:  mkdm
9077.1 
Hello everyone!

Finally the new 2.0 version of the super powerful Thea Render is ready!

I have used extensively the current version (1.5) of Thea to render my Moi's model and it was a piece of cake with my overclocked Gtx 1080Ti...
Ultrafast quasi-photorealistic GPU+CPU render engine (Presto engine).

Now I expect a lot from this new version...

I will see.

Check it out :)

https://www.thearender.com/features/

https://www.thearender.com/

- Marco (mkdm)
My Procreate portfolio

EDITED: 2 Oct 2018 by MKDM

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 From:  amur (STEFAN)
9077.2 
Hi Marco,

i'm a licensed user as well, but i can't test it because i don't see Thea Studio standalone
(or Blender plug-in) for purchase... Hope they made also a new UI, because the 1.5 one
looked a bit childish (the icons), compared to Maxwell...

Did the viewport received also an update, so that you can easily navigate millions of
polygons?

Regards
Stefan
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 From:  mkdm
9077.4 In reply to 9077.2 
Hello Stefan!

I have the same questions...

Actually it seems that they've upgraded only the plug-ins versions for SketchUp, Rhino, Cinema 4D.
No Standalone for the moment...

But I've sent an email to the support just to ask all the details of this upgrade.

I'm interested in the Standalone version...
I've also a commercial license of Rhino v5 but I asked them if this new Thea 2.0 can work with V5 or it needs Rhino v6.

I hope this is not the case, because I don't want to buy the upgrade to Rhino V6 :)

Ciao!

- Marco (mkdm)
My Procreate portfolio
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9077.5 
Seems terrific and well known for its ergonomy! :) ...and for the price also! ;)

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 From:  mkdm
9077.6 In reply to 9077.5 
Thanks!
...obviously an amazing product...nothing to say about that...

But for me it's not good for two reasons:
1) It costs so much...so much :)
2) NO GPU engine!! You must have a very powerful CPU-based machine with many cores. Maybe some powerful XEON processor...with a capable MOB and RAM of course...
Very expensive machine...
Instead I have invested in a (commercial) but powerful GPU (Gtx 1080 Ti) so KeyShot is out of my horizon...

Anyway...great products with a stunning quality!!

Super professional.

- Marco (mkdm)
My Procreate portfolio
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 From:  amur (STEFAN)
9077.7 
Thanks for the info, Marco.

Then let's wait and see what their answer is.

Regards
Stefan
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 From:  mkdm
9077.8 In reply to 9077.7 
You're welcome.

Stay tuned.

- Marco (mkdm)
My Procreate portfolio
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 From:  mkdm
9077.9 In reply to 9077.7 
Hello Stefan and everyone.

Hmmm...no good news for me from the Thea team at the moment.

In short:
1 - Unfortunately, Thea for Rhino v2.0 will not be available for Rhino 5.

2 - Only with Rhino V6, Cinema 4D and SketchUp plugins

3 - No stand alone version.

But the biggest problem for me is the lack of support for Rhino V5.
I don't want to buy Rhino V6 upgrade...It costs too much.

Anyway, this is their reply.

"Dear Marco,
Thea Studio v2.0 will not be available for purchase. Instead, we have worked on a brand new product that will take its place with an enhanced user interface and workflow, utilizing Thea Render v2.0 core technology. An announcement will be made once the release date of the new product is definite.

Unfortunately, Thea for Rhino v2.0 will not be available for Rhino 5.

The 1080Ti is being supported by Thea and the new engine has lots of performance optimizations.

Please let me know if you have any other question.

Kind Regards,
Thea Render Support Team"

- Marco (mkdm)
My Procreate portfolio
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 From:  amur (STEFAN)
9077.10 
Thanks a lot Marco!

That does not look good... So it seems that i probably can't update in the future. :-(

Regards
Stefan
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 From:  mkdm
9077.11 In reply to 9077.10 
Too bad for them:)

They will not have my 100 bucks for the upgrade :)

- Marco (mkdm)
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 From:  amur (STEFAN)
9077.12 
Hi Marco,

have you ever tried Arion Standalone? Arion has also GPU support and produces
image quality like Maxwell and the standalone is only 195 €. I had purchased it
many years ago if they had an OS X version...

http://www.randomcontrol.com/arion-stand-alone

Regards
Stefan
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 From:  mkdm
9077.13 In reply to 9077.12 
Thanks Stefan!

Maybe I will give it a try...

I don't know...200 bucks are not so few....

And there's always the great alternative of Blender!!!

Don't forget Blender... :)

Ok...its Cycles engine is not the fastest (also with GPU) and it suffers a little bit too much of graining, also with the denoising filter, but...wow...it's free and it has tons, tons of features!!
And the 2.8 is near...

...it's FREE :)

- Marco (mkdm)
My Procreate portfolio
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 From:  mkdm
9077.15 In reply to 9077.12 
Downloaded the demo some minute ago....got a quick tour...and...uninstalled :)

I don't like the UI and the workflow, not at all.

I think I will stick with the previous version (1.5) of Thea and with the free Blender.

Thanks anyway.

- Marco (mkdm)
My Procreate portfolio
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 From:  amur (STEFAN)
9077.16 
Hi Marco,

yes, Cycles is o.k. but imho not top notch like Maxwell or Arion...

To bad that you don't like the UI.

Regards
Stefan
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 From:  mkdm
9077.17 In reply to 9077.16 
Well...the truth is that I can't take it anymore of complex and messy UI...with super tiny buttons and labels, and with really bad UX and color palettes...

This is one of the reason why I'm in love with Procreate on iPad Pro.
Minimalist and fully immersive UI with a superb UX :)

- Marco (mkdm)
My Procreate portfolio
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 From:  OSTexo
9077.18 
Hello,

This is hilarious. I told the people at Altair that they needed a decent UX for the next generation of TR and they decided to listen to a bunch of hysterical fanboys without a shred of UXD experience instead to drive the product design.

That forum and company is now a dumpster fire, I can't see myself sticking around for the new studio version given the history of poor decisions they are making.

I'm sticking with 1.5 until I do a proper evaluation of alternatives because the plugins I use in Rhino v5 way more valuable to my workflow than T4R 2 working only on version Rhino v6, also a lame duck release.

I'm checking out some alternatives over the coming weeks, hopefully something will turn up that integrates well.
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 From:  mkdm
9077.19 In reply to 9077.18 
Thanks a lot OSTexo for sharing!

I agree with you!
It’s really bad to see that the SUPERB rendering engine writtem by the former Thea’s team, has been “wrapped” by such a poor and obsolete UI.

Actually the version 1.5, with its “Presto” engine, coupled with a powerful GPU, like a Gtx 1080 Ti (or 2 or 4 of them) or with a Quadro P5000, is still the the fastest quasi-photorealistic rendering engine of the consumer market, so I’ll stick with it.

For sure I'm not buying the upgrade to 2.0 nor the V6 of Rhino...

And also...for the moment...log live to Blender :)

Ciao!

- Marco (mkdm)
My Procreate portfolio
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 From:  pafurijaz
9077.20 
Hi everyone, for years I have been following every render engine that has been released in the last 20 years, now all are based on the same algorithms of the famous PBR book, with recent variations .. I believe that the solution is always subjective. The market offers everything. I just want to remind you that there exists besides my beloved Blender also Indigo from which many have been inspired and many have given their contribution, naturally, within a certain time Eevee will have to go out, surely a novelty expected by many.

Personally, Thearender has never convinced me ..

https://indigorenderer.com/

Blender 2.8 info and demos
https://www.blender.org/2-8/
some rendere in Eevee the new realtime render of Blender.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Dxk5Re

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/9ew1GN

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/4wwg4

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oOXQXm

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/xzAqqX
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