Hi Franz

you>It's a pity that all of the Italian software developers seem to be retired. Or just want to sell only more new systems...? (TPA Milano).
Because they prefer not to give any information about the old systems.

I understand your frustration but it's pretty normal their answer ;)

Pade is a good manufacturer,as Balestrini or Bacci,you can find good CNC by them on second-hand market

M

Hallo Franz,

I would start at YASKAWA. The company is still existing. And the question is how to connect a controller/converter for GCode to the motor control units. Typically they change the protocols/standards not so often. Heidenhain seems to support YASKAWA also. Fanuc or Siemens? I read also something about YASKAWA servos in the LinuxCNC/EMC2 forum. Ich hab mal ne Käsefräse gebaut und damit angesteuert. To get the axes run is possible I thing - Control the tool change is another thing. A new software for 5 Axis milling isn't free available and has to be configured to the special machine.
Who make the maintenance of the machine. Maybe he can help.

In general - what a desaster:-(

Karsten

p.s.: google for yaskawa sgda-08as - you will find the a pdf of the controller family S.398 the spec for I/O signals - so a specialist can give you a tip:-)

http://www.tpaspa.com/cad-cam.html
"they do retrofit of old machines"

Hello Karsten and Mauro!

Thanks for the additional tips. I have seen the www.industrypart.com in the web, will contact them.
(Karsten - I cannot imagine, what is a "Käsefräse", seems interesting.)

Currently the two old Pade machines still works pretty,
the second one I bought mainly because of the exchange components, as they are quite similar in construction.
This machine but now is also fully used. We have got this one only 1 year ago (was buyed used and we had nothing to learn new).
However, the true value of these machines is usually their existing programs.

That's why these "TPA & Co" companies' business policies (throwaway society) are so damaging.
After all, such large expenditures can only be represented in mutual trust.
I actually have a good service company in the background. I will contact also them (company Eisner, Linz) to see what the future looks like.

Thanks again for your help and advice!

Franz

For your information, that's what we do:
www.plank-gmbh.com

Picture of a Käsefräse.
A not so professional CNC Router made of waste.

Looking nice!

Google helps me to understand too:
http://kaesefraese.com/german/wasist.html

Nevertheless - I've milled aluminium, PCBs, plastics and wood! Okay tolerances by +/-0,1mm, not impressive, but works

TPA: "they do retrofit of old machines"

After the emotional appearance of Narcotini (TPA) unfortunately not for me.
Or just at a price you can't say yes to. That's what I think.
I was probably too honest in the wording...
Some people make the biggest mistake of hearing what someone else really thinks about them.
In this sense, say hello to Narcotini if he looks at the forum again.

Franz

You can solve the problem:

First you have to watch the godfather 1-3.
Call them and say:

"I'm gonna make you an offer you can't refuse !" They will understand;-)

By the way: Der Irak hat Hochfrequenz-Gaszentrifugen für die Anreicherung von Uranhexafluorid in Deutschland gekauft - dann sollte es möglich sein eine Steuerung in Italien zu beschaffen, auch wenn man sich nicht mehr mag.

Yes, it is important - despite all the ailments - not to lose the humor!

Hello everyone!

I think I've gotten closer to the problem of denied file access. It is due to a hardware key that was connected to the printer port of the old PC. The conversion file "DXFTO0G. EXE" was protected by this. Therefore, the file conversion did not work on the other PCs. I should have known that, actually. But time has also left its mark on me, so it seems. Hope that the memory increases with the days that are getting longer again today....

Thanks for the help to all.

NUM, Switzerland will offer me a new NC for the old machines. Another factor is the post processor for the machine.
I saw at googling that there is a connection to Moi3D, namely:
https://www.filou.de/produkte/moi-3d/
https://www.filou.de/produkte/rhino-cam-plugin-madcam/
https://www.filou.de/madcam-5-versions-vergleich/

Does anyone already have experience with this software, and is it really suitable for real 5-axis milling?
Is there also a way to create the post processor?

Franz

So the problem was a Parallel port Dongle?

Re MadCam: I've no experience with it. From the English version: 30 day evaluation, cheapest 3axis version 795 euro, more for advanced versions, up to 4,995 euro, requires Rhino, version (5, 6 likely?), update last October. Have read that there are No maintenance fees.
Link to CNCZone forum talk (English): http://www.cnczone.com/forums/madcam/
https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rhinocam-or-madcam/12998/24
- Brian

<So the problem was a Parallel port Dongle?>

Yes, I've forgotten over the years that there is something additional behind the old PC, Dongle is the right expression.
For the developer of the software it would probably only have been 1 second to think about it, to draw my attention to it.
But that's the way of security to lose customers.
The opposite is Michael and many of these forum users, I'm glad this is so.

Thanks for the tip, I'll follow every lead from now on.

Have a nice day
Franz

Happy New Year, and THANK YOU for the quick help in case of questions!

https://sketchfab.com/models/b17712b70fc841ef98e45ccedb7bc23c

... Playing with Moi

Franz