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 From:  Karsten (KMRQUS)
8745.4 In reply to 8745.1 
Hello Finema,

you have to create a nearly undevelopt base surface for the flow. Your bottleneck is nearly a cone. Have a look to the picture. To create it, you have to use sweep to get the right surface structure (UV). Green is the profile blue are the rails. Then use flow. Dependend on what you want (position overlapping), you have to place the label. the length of the rails depends on the length of the circles.



Have a nice day
Karsten
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 From:  Michael Gibson
8745.5 In reply to 8745.3 
Hi Finema, sorry I didn't know that you were wanting to do a physical process like that.

That's an area called "developable surfaces" - they can be tricky to work with since a surface is only developable if it has certain geometric properties basically it has to be straight in one direction.

Rhino has some specialized tools for working with developable surfaces so if you need to do a lot of this type of thing that could help, but the method Karsten writes above should enable you to get what you need in MoI for this case.

- Michael
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 From:  Finema
8745.6 In reply to 8745.4 
Hi Karsten
How i create the undevelopp surface ?
Can you post your .3dm with differents steps.
Thanks a lot !
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 From:  Finema
8745.7 In reply to 8745.6 
oh
it's OK
thats run
thanks !!!
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 From:  Karsten (KMRQUS)
8745.8 In reply to 8745.7 
No problem - it's christmas time:-)
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 From:  bemfarmer
8745.9 
Hi Finema,

I did a script called UnwrapCone, which will also unwrap frustrums, which are cones with the top cut off.
Your wine bottle neck is not quite a cone, and likely is not developable (?).


The next problem is the slanted seam, which bows inward from a cone. So I tried adding a line segment from the bottom of the slant seam, to the top of the slant seam, as a substitute slantseam.

(The UnwrapCone result looks very similar to what Karsten has shown.

- Brian
(My initial results were with an overly large unwrap, and the flow result was shrunk down... I'll have to try again... )

EDITED: 16 Dec 2017 by BEMFARMER

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 From:  Finema
8745.10 
Awesome !!
I was able to use the exact shape of the cut and plated it with the karsten technique.
The icing on the cake: I was able to use directly the UV of the MoI file in Keyshot (import Nurbs or Import .OBJ)
Yes!
Thanks again to you and thank you karsten

EDITED: 9 May 2020 by FINEMA

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 From:  Karsten (KMRQUS)
8745.11 In reply to 8745.10 
Looks great - a Cremant! Cool structure in the glass and on the label!
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8745.12 
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Is beautiful that please without concept!
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 From:  Finema
8745.13 In reply to 8745.11 
Thanks a lot Karsten ! :)
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 From:  Finema
8745.14 
An easier way is to copy and paste my "nearly cone" in Rhino
use > Surface > Smash
copy and paste the unfold "nearly cone" in Moi And do the Flow
et voilĂ  ...
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 From:  Karsten (KMRQUS)
8745.15 In reply to 8745.14 
But first you have to have Rhino. Second: What kind of answer would that be in a MoI forum? And third: Knowledge is the only resource that grows through its use!

Have a nice day
Karsten
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 From:  Finema
8745.16 In reply to 8745.15 
Karsten
No offense, I just wanted to add another easier way to do this thing.
Yes I have Rhino, C4D and other applications that help me every day for my work.
I thank you again for your help.
What else is there?

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 From:  Karsten (KMRQUS)
8745.17 In reply to 8745.16 
Don't get me wrong! Everything is fine. In my opinion it's sometimes better to understand underlying concepts and ideas then only use the easiest way. As more we understand and use them, as more grows our knowledge. And more knowledge means better solving problems in the future.

Have a nice day
Karsten
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