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 From:  glmr
8321.1 
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is there any script or command? I had really hard evening for aligning several objects and was forced to jump several times from moi3d to another software just for import/group/align/export objects

EDITED: 21 Feb by GLMR

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 From:  Martin (MARTIN3D)
8321.2 In reply to 8321.1 
Hi glmr,

one way is to group by name:

Select the objects you want to group
Click on Unnamed at the top right field.
Give the objects a name
Then use the Scene browser to select all equal named objects.

You can also group by Style in a similar way.
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 From:  glmr
8321.3 In reply to 8321.2 
this way doesn't work correctly if I need to align object with several other objects

EDITED: 21 Feb by GLMR

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 From:  BurrMan
8321.4 In reply to 8321.3 
Do you have an example 3dm?
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 From:  glmr
8321.5 In reply to 8321.4 
no. just try to draw circle O and two lines II and align II vertical center with O. I can't.
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 From:  Finema
8321.6 
Hi
have you enable Move as Group in the checkbox ?
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8321.7 
<<no. just try to draw circle O and two lines II and align II vertical center with O
Can you post an image of what do you want ? If you don't want post a file 3dm!
An image is better than hundred of letters! :)
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 From:  futagoza (STEFAN)
8321.8 
Hi Pilou and all,

i think glmr means something like this, as shown in my two pictures.

The two lines are grouped as one part and when doing the align command
it aligns to the center, without overlapping the two lines.





Regards
Stefan
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 From:  glmr
8321.9 In reply to 8321.8 
futagoza (STEFAN): yes, it is definitely what I mean. what software do you use?


Finema: yes, I checked "move as group" but it doesn't work as needed
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 From:  futagoza (STEFAN)
8321.10 
Hi glmr,

i use many softwares besides MoI. However, the images are taken with Shade3D, a software made in Japan.

Regards
Stefan
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8321.11 
Why not simply use Move + Helpers Lines! :)

EDITED: 21 Feb by PILOU

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 From:  glmr
8321.12 In reply to 8321.11 
explain, please
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8321.13 In reply to 8321.12 
Of Course!
You can make many thing with the helper lines system
Click without release ...Move ...Release! ;)

http://moi3d.com/3.0/docs/moi_command_reference11.htm#constructionlines

Click on the little "White Tab" for more Helper lines options!

I never seen so good Helpers Lines system!

EDITED: 21 Feb by PILOU

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 From:  glmr
8321.14 In reply to 8321.13 
thank you.
a bit strange way for me, but looks like it works.
slower than group/ungroup operations but faster than export-import-export to another software.
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 From:  Martin (MARTIN3D)
8321.15 In reply to 8321.13 
Great tip Pilou but I can not reproduce it. After you select the two lines what tool do you select?
I selected the line tool and I can draw the construction line but I can not move everything inside the circle.

-Martin

Edit: I think I finally got it. You use the move tool, draw the construction line and then pick the base and the target point.

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 From:  Michael Gibson
8321.16 In reply to 8321.14 
Hi glmr, another option is to use the Transform > Move command with the "Bounding box center" option as the basepoint. To do this, select your lines, run Transform > Move and at the first prompt where it asks you to pick your base point, there is a button available labeled "Bounding box center". Push this button now to use the center of the selection's bounding box as the base point for the move. Then click the target point at the center of the circle.

Also the Transform > Align command should work for that with the "Move as group" checkbox enabled, if that is not working as you expected can you please post an example file so I can see exactly what is going on there?

For example with this:



Running Transform > Align with the "Move as group" checkbox enabled will give you this:



- Michael

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 From:  glmr
8321.17 In reply to 8321.16 
maybe I use command in wrong way. so, I have group of two lines (g1) and circle. when I use ALIGN selecting group and circle they are moving together without changing their mutual position if I checked "move as group" box.
so, looks like I do something wrong, but I can't understand what is wrong.
anyway - I would be happy to have a script or command which allows to work in "traditional" way
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 From:  Michael Gibson
8321.18 In reply to 8321.17 
Hi glmr, so for a case like that where you want to align 3 objects but keep 2 of them as a group (the lines) and the other one (the circle) also aligned to some other spot but treated individually, you will need to use the Align command in 2 separate passes. Do it once with the 2 lines selected and "Move as group"' enabled, and then a second time on the circle. Does that produce the result you want? Or you could use it once on the lines to align them to the circle, then select all 3 objects and run it again to align the whole set to your end destination.

I do want to add a grouping function so you could group your lines and have it behave how you originally expected.

If you're still unsure on how to use the Align command in 2 separate passes to get what you need, please post the 3DM model file that has the objects in it that you are using so I can show you with your actual file.

- Michael
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 From:  glmr
8321.19 In reply to 8321.18 
thanks! looks like I understood how it works and now I can avoid export to another software.
but generally I would like to work with groups of multiple objects as with single objects. this is "traditional" way and I hope you will add this feature or script, or command.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
8321.20 In reply to 8321.19 
Hi glmr, I definitely do want to add a grouping feature, but it will have an impact on how a lot of commands process things and modify basic behavior such as how selection works.

Something with that broad of a scope isn't really feasible to do with a plug-in or script right now, it will need to be implemented more in the core of MoI.

- Michael
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