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 From:  Michael Gibson
8244.3 In reply to 8244.1 
Hi Stien, in addition to OnShape you could also try bringing your model into ViaCAD as well, the fillet engine that either of those use is able to handle these types of fillets that meet up in sharp corners quite a bit better than MoI. MoI's filleter will probably work fine for the case of all the edges being filleted like in my above screenshot.

The type that you're trying to do just doesn't work well in MoI right now unfortunately.

- Michael
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 From:  BurrMan
8244.4 In reply to 8244.3 
I couldn't get it to work in ViaCad.

Here is the result in SpaceClaim:



Maybe someone wants to try it in OnShape?
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 From:  PaQ
8244.5 In reply to 8244.4 
The procedure works in Fusion, but I can't get the expected shape for the chamfer :S
(I don't know this software very well)


EDITED: 16 Jan 2023 by PAQ

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 From:  Stien (UNCLESTAN)
8244.6 
Wow! Thank you for such a deep response and for testing some examples out. I am going to look further into some different setups before I incorporate SpaceClaim into the workflow, but that was pretty much the result I had envisioned.

That being said, I will probably contact the original artist of the piece I am recreating to ask how it was done.

Thanks! and hopefully Ill return here to share an all-Moi solution
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 From:  BurrMan
8244.7 In reply to 8244.6 
SpaceClaim is going to be close to $4k...

""""I couldn't do it in ViaCad"""""""

I did it in ViaCad!!! ($99.00)



If I do the Boolean operation in MoI, then ViaCAD fails. If I bring the solid objects into ViaCAD "Separately", then I can achieve the result.

While SpaceClaim is the best Filleter I have used, ViaCad is pretty awesome, at a REALLY good price. Not everyone using MoI is ready to throw down $3500+....

Anyway, may do some looksee in Fusion and OnShape.
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 From:  PaQ
8244.8 In reply to 8244.6 
Hi Stien,

Would be awesome if Vitaly could post some of his MoI work on the forum !
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8244.9 
I believe that you can do that for 0 $ with the free Design Spark Mechanical! ;)

http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6186.1
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8244.10 
So for 0 $ with DesignSpark Mechanichal! (1.0)
:)

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 From:  PaQ
8244.11 In reply to 8244.10 
Hey Pilou, can you bring the result back in MoI ?
(sorry too lazy to try myself :P)
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8244.12 In reply to 8244.11 
Seems I was too optimistic!

Converter .sab to .sat seems have a glitch!
All surfaces are not converted! (or I miss something inside DesignSpark ! )



http://moiscript.weebly.com/uploads/3/9/3/8/3938813/p9.rsdoc
http://moiscript.weebly.com/uploads/3/9/3/8/3938813/p9.sat

here in French the procedure...http://moiscript.weebly.com/designspark-1.html

Rename file MyObject.rsdoc in MyObject.zip
Unzip
Inside the file resulting there is ...Spaceclaim/Geometry/ ... there is a kabalistic file .sab

find the SabSatConverter.exe
In Windows line command
"C:...\SabSatConverter.exe" -i "C:\Users\Desktop\kabalistic.sab" -o "C:\Users\Desktop\MyObject.sat"

Maybe you have a better converter?

EDITED: 4 Jan 2017 by PILOU

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 From:  PaQ
8244.13 In reply to 8244.12 
Hi Pilou,

Not really, but thanks for the procedure, it might always be handy for some complex fillet scenario !
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8244.14 In reply to 8244.13 
Yes but if the converter is not reliable that is maybe not so good! :)
Maybe Fusion 360 can makes something! :)
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 From:  PaQ
8244.15 In reply to 8244.14 
Hi Pilou,

Well I tried, but as I posted previously, the fillet/fillet/chamfer don't create the same kind of surface arrangement you get with viacad, spaceclaim or even MoI (when it doesn't failed) on this particular example.
And I don't see any other option in Fusion to handle this result differently. Again I maybe miss something.
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 From:  BurrMan
8244.16 In reply to 8244.13 
Here you go PaQ...

Step Exported.
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 From:  BurrMan
8244.17 In reply to 8244.15 
Hey PaQ,
Regarding the Fusion example, yeah, that's a bummer result. The "Ruled Fillet" produces the intended result, but it's a FILLET!

The Chamfer option seems to be missing the ability to "Chamfer between surfaces", which is what the Fusion workflow needs, to achieve this....

Just so you don't lose hair over it.
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 From:  PaQ
8244.18 In reply to 8244.17 
Hey Burr,

Thanks for letting me know about Fusion ! (and sor caring about my mental health ! :))
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8244.19 In reply to 8244.15 
No I speak about help of Fusion 360 for UpLoad a ".sab" file format!
SAT/SMT Files (*.sab, *.sat, *.smb, *.smt)
It can, but alas seems the .sab file from DesignSpark is exotic or too old...
Failed!
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8244.20 
@PaQ and other fellows!

Bingo! :) (je ne lâche pas le morceau! :)

You must write -v 8 at the end of the line of the Windows Command Line!!!
(for have the command line in Windows 10 : Key Windows + R )

"C:\Program Files\DesignSpark\DesignSpark Mechanical 1.0\SabSatConverter.exe" -i "C:\Users\Desktop\MyObject.sab" -o "C:\Users\Desktop\MyObject.sat -v8"

C'est dans les vieilles marmites que l'on fait les meilleures soupes! :)
http://moiscript.weebly.com/uploads/3/9/3/8/3938813/bingo.3dm here in 3dm as the .sat was now good! :)

EDITED: 4 Jan 2017 by PILOU

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 From:  BurrMan
8244.21 In reply to 8244.20 
Hey Frenchy,
How do you get the 3dm file from this post:

http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8244.1

Into designspark?
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8244.22 In reply to 8244.21 
I don't get this file: i just try to make the same fillet inside DesignSpark!
So seems it's now possible for obtain the file in Moi! :)
Sure a little tricky lines command!

I don't know if Vitaly Bulgarov has used DesignSpark or Moi or other ones!)
https://vitalybulgarov.com/about/
Astonishing collection! https://vitalybulgarov.com/3d-kitbash/black-phoenix-full-3d-kitbash-library-20-off-special-offer

Fot this poject seems it's Softimage XSI, ZBrush, Keyshot, Photoshop
http://vitalybulgarov.blogspot.fr/2013/03/black-phoenix-project.html

EDITED: 4 Jan 2017 by PILOU

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