Opinion about some good and robust Polygonal-SDS modeler under 200$
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 From:  PaQ
8090.73 In reply to 8090.70 
//Hi Pilou,

//I don't mean to sound boring or insist on the same topic,
//because it's not my intention and I always respect the different opinions, but...
//how can you really say "Yes except the first two ones! ;)" ?

//Talking about standard and robust modelling tools, leaving aside various exotic tools that this or that software can or not provide,
//it is undeniable that :

//1) In Nurbs modelling, Moi or Rhino comfortably beat Blender 10 to 1!
//2) Voxels, Texture Baking, 3DPainting photoshop-centric and Autopo are much more powerful and extremely easy in 3DCoat rather than in Blender,
//3) Unbiased engine available in Thea Render are unbeatable regarding the outstanding quality.
//And Presto CPU+GPU engine is a lightning bolt!
//It is no coincidence that Altair (creators of solidThinking Inspire and Evolve) acquired Solid Iris Technologies...

//With that said, I don't want to say that Blender it's not a good product,
//but IMHO it's like a supper too full of stuff, with an uncertain flavor.

//Ciao and have a nice day.

//- Marco (mkdm)

 

Hi Marco,

This is so subjective, I hate voxel based sculpting (compared to zbrush), I find Nvil outdated with a cumbersome interface, and I'm much more excited with a renderer like Clarisse or Arnold than Thea.
But I really don't see the point trying to convince anyone about my taste. (Well except for Moi, I can speak hours with some co-workers about it :))

I'm a Pilou's fan, he's our 3D reporter around the world ... and in some extend he's right, feature wise Blender can do everything you mention.
Not as good as specialized applications (hopefully for them right), but an all around solution has some advantages too.

In the other thread you express your reasons why you prefer to stay in Rhino that using external plugin/application for you SDS to Nurbs conversion, despite the better quality result you could get.
I suppose it's exactly the same feeling that blender users can have ... why would they use nurbs when they have something like Hard Ops.

Just an other pov, I don't want to hurt any feelings here.
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 From:  mkdm
8090.74 In reply to 8090.73 
Hi PaQ,

And thank you very much for your reply!

> This is so subjective...
> I suppose it's exactly the same feeling that blender users can have ...

I agree with most part of what you said.

Ultimately, every software is a good software if it does exactly what is expected!

About this, there's no doubt.

> I'm a Pilou's fan...

I always really appreciate all the Pilou's efforts in spreading 3D/Gfx culture!

Nice day!

- Marco (mkdm)
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 From:  mkdm
8090.75 In reply to 8090.72 
Hi PaQ,

Thank you very much for your explanations about .abc format!

- Marco (mkdm)

EDITED: 24 Sep 2016 by MKDM

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.76 
:)
At the end the best software is the one with you are the more comfortable even it has not all functions! :)

For young people today it's marvelous to can use with no money such programs like Blender, Unity, Sketchup, Fusion, Fusion 360 etc...

I will want to use Blender but alas I am not genetically modified for that! (50 years ago maybe! ;)

Have fun modeling!

EDITED: 24 Sep 2016 by PILOU

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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
8090.77 In reply to 8090.76 
//I'm much more excited with a renderer like Clarisse or Arnold than Thea.

Agree :) it depends what is your target.
Talking about extreme photo-realism unbiased engines is the choice but Arnold...
i remember few years ago a user here posted a render using Arnold,it was impressive how metals were so real
ok,also depends of the user's skills ;)


//At the end the best software is the one with you are the more comfortable even it has not all functions!

I see Marco you got Rhino in your pipeline
I did a Rhino's course some years ago
coming from Autocad 2000-2005 and being a MOI's user should be easy but...Rhino's snap system slowed down my workflow
I said to myself:"I'm not so good" :)
Later,i discovered that the person who created Rhino then created MOI.He changed a lot the snap system ;)


//For young people today it's marvelous to can use with no money such programs like Blender, Unity, Sketchup, Fusion, Fusion 360 etc...

Oui :) !
I see lot-lot-lot of guys on the forums using 3DS-AE-NUKE-MAYA...
all them are pro's ?
all them are rich or have money to spend ?
all them use trial or indie versions ?
all them use cracked stuff ?
...who knows... :) :) :)

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 From:  omac12
8090.78 In reply to 8090.77 
@Mauro

I see lot-lot-lot of guys on the forums using 3DS-AE-NUKE-MAYA...


Autodesk markets heavily to students. Most of their products' educational versions are free. I think they may still be free for about 2 years afterwards if they sign up at the right time (if they are still doing the 3 year license registration).
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 From:  mkdm
8090.79 In reply to 8090.77 
Hi Mauro,

> I see Marco you got Rhino in your pipeline

Yes but, clearly, I've got Moi also.

Rhino's workflow is horrible (even in the V6 WIP...what a disappointment, I've no words...) but it has some commands so powerful
that I cannot get rid of it...

That is, for all normal situations I use Moi, but for certain particular cases (surface continuity, import point cloud, import huge obj file, etc...)
I have to use Rhino V5.

Ciao!

- Marco (mkdm)
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