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 From:  BurrMan
7081.17 In reply to 7081.16 
"Seek above all, for a game worth playing".......

BTW: I'm pretty sure Michael would give the shirt off his back to a guy.....
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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
7081.18 In reply to 7081.15 
@blowlamp:
Since when did tax collectors acquire the power to conduct that kind of action?

Can strangers in Italy really (lawfully) enter your premises without warning and start 'going through your stuff'?

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Hi Martin:
Yes,tax collectors got full power here,that's because we are a land of thiefs and clevers ;) ...and much more...
There is no future Here !

M
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 From:  Michael Gibson
7081.19 In reply to 7081.7 
Bard, you wrote:

> but the TVA (or french VAT) is only authorized to the French enterprises, societies or
> companies, localised in France, and not any other one.

You are wrong, the French (and EU) tax law is that the VAT must be collected for an online purchase and it is based on the country where you are ordering from:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_value_added_tax

"Following changes introduced on 1 July 2003, non-EU businesses providing digital electronic commerce and entertainment products and services to EU countries are also required to register with the tax authorities in the relevant EU member state, and to collect VAT on their sales at the appropriate rate, according to the location of the purchaser."


http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/consumers/mail_order_distance/index_en.htm

"The general rule for supplies of goods to private individuals in the single market is the "origin" principle. This means that private individuals pay VAT in the Member State of purchase"

"Goods supplied from outside the European Union are subject to VAT on importation."



I can understand that you don't like to pay this tax, however it is ridiculous to say that it's illegal - according to the law the tax is required to be payed. NOT paying it would be illegal, it's silly to say that collecting it as required by law is illegal.

- Michael
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 From:  blowlamp
7081.20 
Well here in the UK, government bodies, banks and other corporations tend to treat people as their personal property, to do with as they please whilst routinely ignoring law and routinely getting away with it.

However, there are many cases of individuals learning what their rights are and enforcing them vigorously.


Martin.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
7081.21 In reply to 7081.9 
> PS: OK, I come to look who was behind this strange Bluesnap company, it's AMAZON.

Wrong again.... Bluesnap is an independent company, they used to be called Plimus. They are not part of Amazon.

- Michael
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 From:  TpwUK
7081.22 In reply to 7081.20 
Now ain't that the truth Mr. Blowlamp :)

Martin Spencer-Ford
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 From:  Michael Gibson
7081.23 In reply to 7081.20 
Well I can assure you guys that I am not part of some mysterious cabal that is nefariously and illegally collecting taxes...

The EU tax law requires that the VAT tax is collected based on the location of the purchaser. The order system that I use (which is handled for my be a separate company called BlueSnap), collects whatever taxes are mandated by law.

It's not illegal - it's the exact opposite of illegal.

I can understand that people are not happy to pay taxes, but it is not my fault that your country requires them, and it is silly to accuse me of illegal activities when collecting taxes that are required by your government.

I will close this thread for any further replies since it's a bit ridiculous.

- Michael
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