Hi Michael,

this Linux box is specifically left to run at 32-bit, because I run a lot of Wine (i.e. Windows) stuff in this PC. But I have also 64-bit boxes, I just didn't want to install to several machines, because I have bought only one license from you. :D

Intel i5-750, 4GB memory
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (32 bit)
NVIDIA Driver Version: 304.116
Wine 1.7.16
Moi 3.0 beta Mar-24-2014

Photoshop, Carrara, SketchUp and Vue work in this machine, so Wine setup is working. Also huge set of VST synthesizers work (with complex UIs).

Best,
Markku

Hi Markku, Wine 1.7.16 seems to be the current "development" version of Wine, which has stuff in it that's possibly unfinished or in progress... My best guess is that maybe you're running into some bug in Wine from running the non stable version.

According to WineHQ, the current stable release is 1.6.2, possibly that would work better for you. Over here I'm not seeing problems using Wine 1.4.1 which is just what the package manager sent down when I told it to install Wine.

Probably your best bet would be to set up a separate wine version for 1.4.1, it's possible to do that but it looks like you have to build it yourself, not get it from a pre built package (since those want to go into one central location). See here for some instructions:

http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-5d2fd5010318b5facd3ebf67930d1259e67c465f
http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=9630
http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=10041

I would think that it's likely that if you set up a build of Wine 1.4.1 and make it go into its own separate prefix like ~/.wine-1.4.1 that might work.


> Also huge set of VST synthesizers work (with complex UIs).

Yeah but it seems that something probably having to do with inter-process communication is not working... Your other programs just don't happen to use the particular thing that MoI is having problems with. Hopefully it will get fixed during their process of tuning up the 1.7 branch.

- Michael

I'll make some experiments, but I know for sure I need some features which are new in 1.7 series, so I don't want to downgrade...

However, I think I can report this as regression bug. Probably this will benefit others who use Wine and Moi.

Is it OK license-wise, if I try this on my other Linux box? I think I can install Wine 1.6 there.

Thanks anyway, I appreciate your efforts!

Hi Markku

> I'll make some experiments, but I know for sure I need some features
> which are new in 1.7 series, so I don't want to downgrade...

Yeah I don't recommend that you downgrade everything since you already have stuff working.

The links that I posted above are not for downgrading your existing wine but rather for how to set up multiple versions of Wine side by side, so that you could have a separate wine version 1.4.1 set up and be able to run MoI inside of that one, while not interfering with your existing set up.


> Is it OK license-wise, if I try this on my other Linux box? I think I can install Wine 1.6 there.

Yup, you can install the same license on any number of machines that you own, just as long as it's only actively launched and running on one at a time.

- Michael

Can I suggest from a development standpoint that you target a certain version of WINE at certain settings and list them. That way the user can manage WINE versions and include that one for MOI3d. Play On Linux allows not only multiple versions of WINE per application but also has a way to do all that automatically.

> Can I suggest from a development standpoint that you target a certain
> version of WINE at certain settings and list them.

So I guess right now that version would be Wine 1.4.1 since that's the latest one that I know for sure that works.

There are no settings that need to be adjusted, MoI v3 automatically sets up the specific settings that it needs itself (and only sets them for moi.exe specifically, it does not change any global settings for wine).

- Michael