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 From:  kevjon
6512.8 
Love seeing this kind of work, and automotive work is not easy.

Excellent work, the models look great.
~Kevin~
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 From:  Michael Gibson
6512.9 In reply to 6512.1 
Hi Mauro, it looks fantastic! And what a cool post with all the historical background in there too - very nice!

- Michael
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 From:  Andrei Samardac
6512.10 
Nice work Mauro, looks like LOFT is steal alive.. :)

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 From:  Alexander (ALEXCAD)
6512.12 In reply to 6512.11 
Nice Work!
I'm a UK based Alfaholic and have owned many since 1988, my first being an Alfa Sud Cloverleaf which I loved, especially the Boxer engine.
You have inspired me to have a go and modelling it in MOI, than you.

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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
6512.13 In reply to 6512.12 
Hi Alex:
i'm glad this post can help you ! You're talking about Alfasud Quadrifoglio(cloverleaf) Green or Golden,it was very popular and unexpensive in first 80's.
and YES...best part is boxer engine..style is not cool here,belongs to 80's ;)



This is my quick suggest
car is splitted in two parts:red(glossy) and black(matte plastic)
You can try with LOFT than draw on side wiew one long spline where match red part with black bottom part of the car
extrude this spline to trim your loft and delete his bottom part
now use sweep to make fenders and all black bottom part
no need continuity bewteen red and black..and when render you will have the red part that is one mesh,glossy with his reflections
bottom part will be different mesh but is also matte,not glossy,so you'll not have reflections
hope you understand and forgive me for basic english :)
M

EDITED: 30 Mar 2020 by M-DYNAMICS

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 From:  Alexander (ALEXCAD)
6512.14 In reply to 6512.13 
Hi Mauro,

Not very stylish I agree but it was a quick car in its day (sounded great) and handled well too, unfortunately it rusted as fast as it drove :(

Many thanks for the tips and advice on the modelling, I will keep you posted on my progress. It may take a while though due to time available etc, but will enjoy having a go.

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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
6512.15 In reply to 6512.14 
Alex<<quick car in its days>>
YES ....you're right..and sound is a classic Alfa's feature :)
Alfasud was a car for Alfaholics and for family too...
In '80 rust was very common problem,especially for Fiats producted in Sicily(Termini Imerese)
factory was close to the sea,so..." exposed to salt ",all frames and sheets without an anti-rust treatment...


Alfa Montreal by Bertone's house




...when cars were REAL cars.... ;)

EDITED: 30 Mar 2020 by M-DYNAMICS

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 From:  Michael Gibson
6512.16 In reply to 6512.15 
The last one reminds me a lot of a the corvette stingray that we had over here in the US.

I myself have one of these, in storage, it's halfway rebuilt. Someday I hope to get it finished:


1960 Dodge Matador 2 door hardtop:



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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
6512.17 In reply to 6512.16 
Agree Michael
Stingray and Montreal are 100% pure 70's style (my favourite era)
Fashion of that times (the best :) )
The Dodge Matador belongs to the 50's..where you Americans ruled in car-styling
..how many beautiful cars you did..and this one is feasible in Moi very well too.. :)
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 From:  Michael Gibson
6512.18 In reply to 6512.17 
Hi Mauro,

> The Dodge Matador belongs to the 50's..where you Americans ruled in car-styling

Yeah my Dodge is from pretty much the end of that era, a lot of fun stuff was going on then with rocketship and sci-fi inspired styling.

- Michael
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 From:  Alexander (ALEXCAD)
6512.19 In reply to 6512.15 
Mauro,

Very interesting, you clearly know the Alfa history, thank you.

I noticed the 75 next to the Montreal, I always wanted a V6 one, again not very pretty but an awesome drivers car (as are all Alfa's)

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
6512.21 
Another cool one!
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Is beautiful that please without concept!
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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
6512.22 
Hi to all Alfaholics: Alfa's legend goes on !

Alfa took part at Expo Montreal 1967 with a prototype named Montreal
(link in English to official Alfa musem https://www.museoalfaromeo.com/en-us/MostreTemporanee/Pages/MontrealExpo.aspx )

Testers found problem while driving on a curve,low flow fuel in the carburetor,so they mounted Spica mechanic iniectjon

a French video:



Trasitions between different shapes founded on this car pushed me to give a try using SubD modeling Zarkow's way
This is the thread about Montreal surfacing:

http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=10064.1

Here using the "so long waited" Dimension tool.Dimensions are very close to original



A simple Moi screenshot copied to clipboard and pasted into Affinity Photo
Moi lighting settings:Enamel
Insert Alfa logos and tonemapped using James Ritson settings,this allow me to get "Vintagell"effect i want
i recycled some parts from my previous cars,so carvings of the tires are little bit large,wipes need to be more straight...i don't care :)



same settings in back view.Here i did a curved top bottom so the back lights are curved while original is straight



Here a little bit "Toon style" using -Oil slick- light settings in Moi



Be here after 7 years means that modeling passion is not gone away
During modeling session i watched the car and i said " WOW"...once again this -low cost- software made by just one man give me so much happiness
Thank you Michael :)

P.S. photorealistic renders will follow...
Pilou you have won the car in my previous post,i'll send you this week end ;)

EDITED: 28 Jan 2021 by M-DYNAMICS

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
6512.23 In reply to 6512.22 
Cool I will drive a super car! :)
And put on it the fabulous textures of the incredible Vervette online!
http://www.taron.de/Vervette/sandbox/

PS Seems the reflexions of your renderings on the wheel car fender are "inversed" (very "dark" ) ???

Else some fantasy :)

EDITED: 28 Jan 2021 by PILOU

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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
6512.24 In reply to 6512.23 
@Pilou
Seems the reflexions of your renderings on the wheel car fender are "inversed" (very "dark" ) ???

You mean flipped normals? I think it's up to the Dino's lighting setting that darker areas,plus add a tonemapped effect that emphatize the local shadows
It's not a render,it's Moi screenshot.You can notice the seams on the carbody the Moi SubD converter did when imported...100% Moi :)
It's a solid like you see in your image,spending more time it is possible to build the inner parts and make better joints between doors and body and so on..



Final surface has slightly different seams,comparing to those in the image above because I did little adjustments before converting
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
6512.25 In reply to 6512.24 
Ah yes, i have forgotten that the very speedy render of Moi permit to make some screen shots for show works in progress with a sufficient result!
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Is beautiful that please without concept!
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 From:  Mik (MIKULAS)
6512.26 In reply to 6512.25 
Nice model Mauro, Cuore Sportivo lives forever :-)
Mik
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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
6512.27 
Thanks Mik :)

Here two simple photo-rendering without special effects just to close this experiment with SubD

Basic studio



Basic outdoor






Sadly I must stopped to render because of my 15 years old hardware:
Intel Core Duo Quad 2.66 Ghz
Gtx 460
8G Ram
I could do much more but there are limits...I'll buy new hardware this year.

During importing Obj to Blender i founded problems few times:objects far from original position
Import Obj using scale=20 to get right dimensions



To solve this i converted objects in Moi using FBX export setting to last versions



Works fine :) without change scale settings to find right dimensions
Moi 1---FBX export---Blender=1

Alfa-holics thread will go on...too much stuff to tell :)

M
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