MoI and high resolution screens?

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 From:  GlynG
6308.1 
I'm new to 3d modelling but am interested in MoI to design model wargaming models for 3d printing, it has been recommended to me by others with a lot of experience using it for this.

I'll be replacing my several years old laptop with a new one at some point in the next 3 months which I'll use for it and it will have a 3200 x 1800 resolution screen and Windows 8.1. I'm just curious if MoI will work ok at that very high resolution? I would prefer to actually display and use the full resolution and increase the scaling for the menus, but I gather some software programs don't currently work well with such high resolution scaling and produce tiny, barely readable menus and other problems.

Also how demanding a program is MoI to run at high resolution? I'm considering getting a Fujistsu U904 laptop but even if I go for the highest CPU, RAM and SSD options you can have with it I have very little idea if that will be enough to design large complex models at 3200 x 1800 with just an integrated Intel HD Graphics 4400 or not. Would MoI run ok on something like this? More detailed specs can be found here http://www.fujitsu.com/fts/products/computing/pc/notebooks-tablets/superior/lifebook-u904/ If that wouldn't work too well, I'll probably end up going for a larger, higher spec workstation laptop like the new XPS 15, but as I'll travel and bicycle tour with the laptop I'd prefer the lighter and more portable U904 if possible.

EDITED: 26 Nov 2013 by GLYNG

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 From:  OSTexo
6308.2 
Hello,

I use MoI with WQXGA screens at 30" and the menus and icons are nicely readable. I'm not sure that WQXGA+ would look like other than tiny at half the screen diagonal. I'd pass on the Intel Graphics, if I had to trade off I would get discrete graphics and a lower resolution screen.
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 From:  BurrMan
6308.3 In reply to 6308.2 
MoI has a nice feature in it, which is a dynamically scalable UI. It's under option.

So here's my normal 2560 monitor:



Here's the same monitor shot with no resolution changes, but the UI size set at 30.



If I had a 10 ft tall monitor, I could scale the UI accordingly, to be readable.

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 From:  milkywaif
6308.4 In reply to 6308.1 
Hi GlynG,

You can adapt MoI to your screen resolution easily. There's UI size setting in MoI options. By changing this option every UI element scales up proportionally. This prevents tiny, barely readable menus.



Below UI is with default setting (10)



And this one is with the size setting of "6"
Notice how every element is proportionally scaled down.


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 From:  Michael Gibson
6308.5 In reply to 6308.1 
Hi Glyn,

> I would prefer to actually display and use the full resolution and increase the scaling for the menus,
> but I gather some software programs don't currently work well with such high resolution scaling and
> produce tiny, barely readable menus and other problems.

Yeah unfortunately that's very common behavior that many programs aren't able to scale their UI up to make it big enough on such a high density display.

Like others mentioned above though, MoI itself has been specifically designed to handle this type of thing well. So MoI's UI won't be a problem but it's certainly possible that you will run into tiny UI problems with a lot of other applications. Windows has some stuff built into it to forcibly scale non-high-DPI aware programs up but it kind of results in a blurry look so it's hard to say for sure whether it would be workable or not.

In MoI if the initial default isn't large enough for you just go under Options > General > UI size as shown above and bump it up until it feels comfortable.


> Also how demanding a program is MoI to run at high resolution? I'm considering getting a Fujistsu
> U904 laptop but even if I go for the highest CPU, RAM and SSD options you can have with it I have
> very little idea if that will be enough to design large complex models at 3200 x 1800 with just an
> integrated Intel HD Graphics 4400 or not. Would MoI run ok on something like this?

Hmmm.... Well, it's a bit hard to say for sure. For a long time the Intel integrated graphics were very underpowered compared to ATI or nVidia cards. But over the past 4 or 5 years or so they've made a lot of progress every year and the current generation is not anywhere near as far behind as they used to be.

But such a high resolution will stress the fill rate and memory bandwidth aspects of the display pipeline...

I'd say that if it can handle the regular desktop display of just moving windows around and playing videos and stuff like that, that it should be ok for MoI too I'd think.

Maybe look for some reviews that say whether it has a sluggish feel for regular desktop display tasks or not.

- Michael
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 From:  DrNo (BERGKATSE)
6308.6 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_rfaVmmH8

MOI running on a tablet.. kick ass!
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 From:  Michael Gibson
6308.7 In reply to 6308.6 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_rfaVmmH8

That's also showing some of the new support in v3 for view navigation using multi-touch.

- Michael
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