I often use the method in this short video http://screencast.com/t/Yu26N4Mkhfx



Martin.

Hi Ditto,

> I was looking for a more generic solution anyway. There are only a couple of situations that I can think of :
> - a given number of objects equally spaced over a distance : |--O--O--O--O--O--| <<(your solution)> - equally spaced for wrapping (flowing) around : |-O--O--O--O--O-|
> - equally spaced with given position for the first element, with symmetry : |----O--O--O--O--O----| <<(my solution)

I was thinking a bit about how Array Dir might be modified for doing things like this more easily but it seems like it could make things kind of confusing to put too many options in it, it's somewhat difficult to really clearly describe these different options in a way that is immediately easy to understand.

One thing I've thought about some is having an option for specifically controlling the distance between the bounding boxes around items rather than the "base point to target point" type focus that it currently has.

But for your type #3, the "Extent, Count" mode does do what you need, you just need to control where you place the end point, and it is possible to use 2 construction lines to do that right inside of the Array Dir command without activating any other tools.

Make the first construction line a vertical one at the midpoint, and then you can drop in a second construction line from the start point onto that vertical line and get the reflected end point as an "end" snap. You can use construction lines in this way to create a snap point that is mirrored around some centerline without needing to actually run the mirror command separately.

It looks like this:




So anytime that it's really just a single snap point that you need to have mirrored, you can usually do that with construction lines - get an axis construction line going down the middle and then you create a second construction line starting at the point you want to mirror and ending on the axis line, the "reflected end" is then available as a snap point.

- Michael

Thanks, Michael. I definitely need to explore the power of construction lines more.

I managed to get the same result as you with horizontal construction. But impossible with vertical copies, building from bottom to top in my (attached - same as before, iirc) 3dm. The bug usually sits in front of the screen, but here I am lost ...

Thanks!

Ditto

Hi Ditto, you just do the same thing for the vertical direction - maybe you're not releasing the end point of the second construction line at the right spot. It's not enough just to make the second construction line vertical alone, you need to do the mouse down on the circle center, then drag it and do the mouse up at the "Int, Perp" snap on the median line. The distance between the start point and the up point of the second cline is significant. It's then that distance from the start point of the cline to the release point that is reflected with an additional "End" snap that has the mirrored location that you want.

Here's how it looks using your file:



- Michael

So the basic mechanism that this is using is the "reflected endpoints" of the construction line.

If you drag out a construction line with the mouse down starting point and the mouse up release point like this:




The distance between those points is used to create additional End snaps, extended by the same distance on the other side, like this:






When applied perpendicular to a central axis that gives a mirrored point around the axis.

You can also use that distance in a couple of other ways too, like "capture" a distance between 2 points and reapply that distance elsewhere by holding down on the little menu launcher tag and picking relocate or reorient cline, and also you can put in a division number on that little menu to enable "div snap" to do things like snaps at 1/5 or whatever you want increments along that distance.

- Michael

Again, the bug sat in front of the screen. Thank you Michael for these detailed explications. You were right, I didn't release the cline construction at the right point.

Thanks again!

Ditto

Oh my... the div snap and relocate stuff is incredible I should use it more :)

It's by far the best construction lines in any software ever made (it should be the same in Illustrator and Indesign haha)