No with N-gons it works very well. But that problem was when I exported with "Quads & Triangles". Its look like when a lot of small triangles close to overlapping cause this problem.

Hi Andrei, try using "Divide larger than" to break your model up into more regular smaller pieces, that has a tendency to reduce long skinny triangles that go across a larger area of the model.

- Michael

But also a triangle like the one shown here (in your very first post there) is not really particularly skinny at all:




- Michael

I tried use - divide larger than, to make very high poly model, holes become very small but still exists.

Hi Andrei, it seems that 3D Coat is just sensitive to triangles I suppose, maybe it's become more specialized to only work with sub-d quad topology or something like that.

The triangle that I circled in the above image is not particularly skinny, if it can't handle triangles like that it probably isn't going to work directly with MoI's output and I guess you'd need to do some retopology work in that case.

I'm not entirely sure if I understand the thread 100% - did the first problem image that you posted just suddenly stop happening or something like that?

- Michael

For the teeny-tiny slivery black ones, possibly that's just a problem within the 3D Coat real time display. What happens if you export those meshes out to one of your other rendering programs, does the actual render look ok? If so then that's just a display glitch that you should ignore in 3D coat and just go about doing your work.

- Michael

No I still had those problem, I think Iexport model with another cage and thought that problem solved.
The problem is that it do not draw on that holes when paint)
But I use now ngones looks like working good.

After 2 days of experimenting I found best way for worfkflow MOI and 3D coat.
Export from MOI High Poly with Ngons. It's not necessary have to be very High poly just enough polygons to trunsmit smooth geometry, 12 is a good number.
After that imoprt it to 3D coat, and make retopology, 3D coat has good tools for this. Or you can export from MOI Low Poly (has some issues).

Hay Michael, Just record this video to show workflow.

Interesting..
in middle of video you merge first re-topo object with original one from Moi? Is it right?Why?
If you can, tell more about this process,first time for me to see 3D Coat in action..i'm curious :)

M

This process is for making low poly model (for games or animation).
Yes after retopo, I merged it with model from MOI. It necessary for creating normal map. This normal map repeats all details from high poly model and apply it to low poly model to have practically all details from highpoly.
So another words you have detailed low-poly model.

Many thanks,Andrei !

Welcome)

Andrei also started a thread for this tutorial the 3D Coat forum.
http://3d-coat.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14879

AbnRanger, a contributor to the the 3D forum posted this in reply:
"Cool stuff. Thanks for sharing that demonstration. If you know the developer of Moi, it might be worth asking him to talk with Andrew or Stas about either an plugin for 3D Coat or some form of development within, to integrate the tools. I think there is some initial interest and exploration going on. I suggested to Stas, to consider MOI in some form. They are considering a separate version of 3D Coat that is tailored for manufactured output and 3D Printing."

bisenberger,

Yep, will see what Michael say.

That's really cool that they're considering a version for 3D printing.

What kind of additional integration between MoI and 3D Coat would you like to see? Since 3D Coat works on a much different kind of data than MoI, it's pretty difficult to do any bidirectional communication and it seems that 3D Coat has a good OBJ reader.

- Michael

>Good obj reader

what do you mean?

Now I can see only MOI to 3D Coat export automation. But it will skip only few steps. Can not figure out something more.

Hi Andrei,

> what do you mean?

I mean if there is not any problem with the data transfer currently a plug-in isn't going to be solving any major problem.

If it only skips the steps of just doing a single menu pick in 3D Coat, that's probably a lot of work involved to save a very small amount of time.

If the integration gave some kind of benefit that you just could not do with the current file export, that would then be of more benefit and things that deliver more benefit tend to be better things to spend time on.

- Michael

Yep.
If will be some ideas i'll let you know.