Yes you are right, I think it's because I'm more concept artist less Cad engineer)
I have an idea on new version of MOI for CG artists I wrote you private message.

Hi Andrei, I sent you back a reply - in order to keep the development of MoI more streamlined it works better for me to focus on just one single version rather than trying to juggle different versions with some features removed or changed between them.

Also again many sub-d modeling programs are already focused on that same area of doing organic modeling for CG artists... When I started MoI I made a conscious effort to try and bring some aspects of the CAD toolset to be available for artists and not so much focused on doing what other tools already were handling.

I still don't really understand why you don't like sub-d modeling, it's very squishable and makes blobby forms well like you are focused on doing with loft...

- Michael

Because nurbs is much more clear for me and have great functionality. I do not need to make a lot of extra work to make simple hole, or to make square outgrowth on organic shape. And there are a lot of other nuances that you will find modeling in these two methods. I have experience in sub-d and always come to nurbs.

Michael:-I still don't really understand why you don't like sub-d modeling, it's very squishable and makes blobby forms well like you are focused on doing with loft...-

agree with Michael...it's also strange,Andrei,you don't use T-SPLINES (if i understand correctely,you own Rhino+Tsplines )..??

If you insist to loft everything in Moi,you should ask to Michael to implement "close loft to point" like in Rhino....could be a useful option to speed-up workflow

Yes I had trial versions of them Rhino still use to learn some workflows.
I'm not insist just wanted to show my ideas, and let you and Michael to decide is it good or not)
Could you tell more what "close loft to point" make?
And personally I like more my method than T-Spline...)

Thanks God we are still free to share our opinions here...no problem Andrei..go ahead !

-Could you tell more what "close loft to point" make?-
Well..there are lot of Rhino users here and,don't forget,the person that have created it...let to them to describe that function
anyway try to do a loft in Rhino and see his pop-up options

Sorry Andrei,forget pop-up menu...
when you call -LOFT- function in Rhino,line prompt command gives you a choice- POINT-
choose where you want to have the point and the loft will be closed to that point
(i'm not a Rhino user,i just studied a little so forgive me )

+1 for removing this thread from the universe

"... +1 for removing this thread from the universe"

Disagree. Any discussion that enlightens users on how the various tools work is a good thing.

Yes, it would cripple MoI to remove basic tools like revolve and extrude.

An analogy: I have in my shop a metal lathe and a milling machine. In theory, I can make anything on the mill that could be made on the lathe. But for making round objects, the lathe is faster and more accurate. For a hobbyist just starting out, the best investment may be to start with a milling machine. But to be profitable, I need both tools to run my business.

Ed

Hello,

Having a variety of tools in MoI really becomes important when it comes to precision and surfacing operations. I try to use the commands that will give me the best ability to easily and precisely modify the solid when the surfaces are tweaked and revised. I would not use loft for some operations for the simple reason that using loft makes a mess of the control points and desired modification becomes very difficult if not impossible. I'm not close to being highly qualified in understanding the nuances of surfacing, but I know enough to realize that thought needs to be put into what tools will give you the best final and easily modifiable result.

My 2 cents

Most of my work is geometric architecture. The basic tools like extrude and revolve handle 95% of my needs.

While I recognize the value of LOFT and use it now and then, I would not want to give up the more basic and faster tools.

cheers,
eric

OSTexo
>I would not use loft for some operations for the simple reason that using loft makes a mess of the control points and desired modification becomes very difficult if not impossible.

It's because you use Loft style - Normal and Profiles - Auto. With - Loose, Exact you will have the same amount of points as extrude have, and a lot less then sweep or network. And any modification is very simple.

M-dynamics if I understood right it loft from curves to point. If it so it is good option)

Hello,

I guess it depends on the model you're trying to build and the surface quality you're trying to achieve. Both number and the position of control points play into it. I guess the pure loft method is OK for blobby models that do not have to fit any particular constraints but that might miss an important point of having a tool like MoI, where you are able to use a variety of equally beneficial tools to achieve both a precise and easily modifiable result. I can see using Loft only how you can quickly get into a very bad spot where you are unable to change one area of a model without changing another area that you wanted to keep untouched. I know this through my own experience, and have discovered and been helped to find different ways to achieve a more desirable result with a variety of tools.

Extrude in this case is very fast
You do not need to boolean out the holes as you can just grab all the shape and text profiles and extrude straight up or down
the holes are formed automatically from the solid

This was for the beginning of the thread with the 5 sided extrude that Michael did
shayne

Very good idea with the "loft to point"!

The tools that have to be used come from the thinking process you have in mind to achieve the result in the cleanest (and most correct) way possible.

here an example about "loft to point"

http://offbroadway.blogspot.it/2007/04/model-pillow-in-rhino-3d.html

M-dynamics, good example, thanx)
Michael, it would be good to have "loft to point" in MOI.

Hay Micahel, new method to to make revolve with loft! Revolve - 15 sec, Loft - 15 sec!! )))))