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 From:  Michael Gibson
5487.3 In reply to 5487.1 
Hi Yenmonger, yeah just checking over at their order page, the only surface that seems to be available currently for pre-order is the "Surface with Windows RT" - this is the ARM based one which will not run any regular pre-existing Windows applications. So do not get that one if you want to run MoI !

I'm sure that this is going to be an area of considerable confusion, since it's not very obvious to people that "Windows RT" is a specialized version of Windows that is not compatible with previous versions...

At some point I think they will be having an Intel based surface as well with the same chassis and keyboard but that will be running regular Windows 8 instead of "Windows RT". That version does not appear to be available for pre-order quite yet.


And yes, re: graphics chips, some info on that here: http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/microsoft-surface-rt-pro-specifications-comparison-144545

The ARM based one uses an nVidia Tegra chip, it's more of a smart phone-ish type graphics chip I think, and the Intel one has Intel HD graphics 4000.

The Intel version has better specs across the board, higher res display, etc... - I would not be surprised if it came in at something like twice the price of the ARM based one.

- Michael
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 From:  Yenmonger (OTTERMAN)
5487.4 In reply to 5487.3 
Thanks for the great info!

It's too bad the sexy tabletness will come at such a high price. A slim notebook or ultrabook would probably get me better bang for the buck.

Of course, that's all predicated on a bucket of money falling onto me.
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 From:  wunddal
5487.5 
I wonder if anyone has tried MOI on Surface RT with emulation, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095934?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
5487.6 In reply to 5487.5 
Hi wunddal,

> I wonder if anyone has tried MOI on Surface RT with emulation,
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095934?

It's probably not going to work, because of this part:

> Known problems
> Launching one x86 app from another is not supported yet.

That probably means that MoI would not be able to launch any of its secondary worker processes.

Also the ARM CPU that runs the Surface RT is not all that powerful to begin with, probably running an emulation layer like this will result in really slow execution speed.

If you want to run MoI on a surface, you should be able to do that if you get the surface "Pro" version which is a regular computer, the surface
RT" version is pretty different.

- MIchael
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