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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
5365.10 In reply to 5365.9 
No Sorry : 6 is not a power of 2! ;)
2
2*2 = 4 (2 power 2)
2*2*2 = 8 (2 power 3)
2*2*2*2 = 16 (2 power 4)
etc
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 From:  Mauro (M-DYNAMICS)
5365.11 
Rich_Art<<Perhaps it is best not try to understand this mathematic stuff...>>

...totally agree...
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 From:  Rich_Art
5365.12 In reply to 5365.10 
-----> No Sorry : 6 is not a power of 2!

haha, you see, I did not lie when I told I was sick at the mathematical lessons.
I will try to stick with modeling. People like you are much better in mathematical than I am.


Peace,
Rich_Art. ;-)

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
5365.13 In reply to 5365.12 
Absolutly no need to know maths for make fabulous images or modeling! :)
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Pilou
Is beautiful that please without concept!
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 From:  Rich_Art
5365.14 In reply to 5365.13 
Hahaha I'll do my best to make nice images. Although I do not have that much free time as I had a couple of years ago. Bummer....


Peace,
Rich_Art. ;-)

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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.15 In reply to 5365.4 
Hi Rich_Art, thanks for posting the model with the export problem.

Like Danny mentioned above, it seems to be a display glitch, if you go through with the export the actual polygon data seems to be generated ok.

Also since it has the same behavior in the previous v3 beta and in v2 at least it's not any new bug introduced with this new release.

I'll investigate it though and try to figure out what's going wrong.

- Michael
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 From:  BurrMan
5365.16 In reply to 5365.14 
Was this file made with MoI? There is something about that surface. Maybe because it was shrunken (and the join tolerances)? If I delete that little surface, then select naked edges and Join, then run planar, Joining everything up again, they remain visible in the polygon export.

After the planar, Joining the new surface to the inner sunken surface, is normal and quick. Joining to the outer surface, is very prolonged. Something about that calc there.

Anyway, replacing those does something. We'll see what Michael comes up with.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.17 In reply to 5365.16 
Hi Burr, those surface are one with a "pole" where one spot is compressed down to a point, that's a fairly different structure than the trimmed planes that Planar will build.

Extrude with the "To point" option will make results with a pole like that currently, maybe I should make it create trimmed planes instead when it's making a planar side like that.

- Michael
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 From:  Rich_Art
5365.18 In reply to 5365.16 
>>>Was this file made with MoI?<<<

Yes it was.. :-)

@Michael,
Thanks for the explanation.

Peace,
Rich_Art. ;-)

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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.19 In reply to 5365.18 
Hi Rich_Art, so it appears to be a bug somewhere in the triangulator.

If you export with "Output N-gons" the actual n-gon will get written despite the display being wrong. But if you export as "Output: Quads & Triangles" or "Output: Triangles only", then those areas will be missing in the output as well.

If you need to export triangles instead of n-gons, you can use the attached model version - here I've edited those areas to be made up of trimmed planes as Burr mentions above and those happen to avoid the triangulation bug.

I will continue to investigate the triangulation bug, it's been quite a while since I've seen one of those.

But the attached model should get you around this issue for now anyway.

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
5365.20 In reply to 5365.19 
By Taron with Sculptris ;)
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Pilou
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
5365.21 In reply to 5365.19 
Hi Michael,

> Hi Rich_Art, so it appears to be a bug
> somewhere in the triangulator.

I've had a couple of these in the past and accepted it as a graphic glitch as it wrote out the surface okay and I moved on, did you want me to report these in the future?

@ Pilou, that's one ugly looking creature, kind of cool though :)

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~Danny~
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 From:  Rich_Art
5365.22 In reply to 5365.19 
Thanks Michael.
As said, it is no big deal. I'm just doodling with Moi....

Peace,
Rich_Art. :-)

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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.23 In reply to 5365.21 
Hi Danny,

> I've had a couple of these in the past and accepted it as a graphic glitch as it wrote out the
> surface okay and I moved on, did you want me to report these in the future?

Yeah, it would be good to get these cases so I could look into them. If it's a cosmetic glitch it might go on the back burner for a while but it would be good to have the buggy case all the same. You can just send them to me at moi@moi3d.com .

Thanks, - Michael
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
5365.24 In reply to 5365.23 
No probs Michael, will do.

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~Danny~
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 From:  NightCabbage
5365.25 
Oh cool, a new beta :)

Are we still fine to use our old .ini files?

The new one looks a bit different...
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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.26 In reply to 5365.25 
Hi NightCabbage, yup the same .ini file from previous versions should work fine. There actually haven't really been any changes there for a while, what is it that seems different?

- Michael
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 From:  NightCabbage
5365.27 In reply to 5365.26 
Oh, ok, must just be general layout or structure. I think mine's probably from an early V2 beta anyway :P
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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.28 In reply to 5365.27 
Hi NightCabbage - it's possible that the ordering of the different sections may be different from v2 for when a brand new moi.ini file is created from scratch when there is not any existing one. But that ordering doesn't make any actual difference in use.

Also if you push the "Edit .ini file" button on the Options dialog, it will modify the .ini file to prettify it for direct editing by putting in an extra blank line to separate each section, if you have not pushed that button there won't be any spacing in it.

- Michael
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 From:  NightCabbage
5365.29 
Hah, never knew that, cool :)
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