"From what you are describing, it sounds like you would prefer to have buggier final release with having to apply patches to them later on instead of solid final releases?"

OMG, stop acting like you're the king of reliable software....seriously!

For your information, I've been working in the IT for almost 24 years, I know all about software and as a matter of fact, I've even been a professional programmer in RPG III/IV on IBM mainframes. Some of the things you said just totally boggles my mind. Let me give you a major wakeup call son;

- a lot of beta testers aren't really serious beta testers. Often they're just curious about the new features and very few take the time to test features that they would never use themselves and often they only take take time to report bugs, if they're affecting THEIR current workflow.

- it's an indisputable fact that the greatest test for any software is the time when it's released and used by thousands or in some cases, millions of users (customers or people who use the trial version), all with different experiences, different configurations, different ways of doing things.

- the huge majority of beta testers are people who already have been using the product for quite some time. You will seldom see them bring up issues that might confuse people who are totally new to the software. You'll be surprised how quick users are, to live with or work around certain shortcomings in the software and simply forget about it over time. They often won't be the ones that point out those shortcomings, only newcomers will and the sad thing often is, when they are pointed out, the long time users often don't take those complaints seriously....after all....they got used to the shortcomings.

- all software of this size and larger contains bugs, PERIOD! Don't act like you're so much more special than anyone else, because you're not. And not only that, also your software will have a few MAJOR bugs that most definitely require an update!

- A lot of updates for a .0 release is NOT a good sign, but having NO updates at all is not a good sign either. Don't pretend that your beta test is so much better than anyone elses, because it's not. No matter which way you want to look at it; MANY potential customers DO look at the update policy of a developer, especially when they require that software for professional purposes. You're just sticking your head in the sand, because all you see is just dollar signs with every major release, updates however are seen by you as a nuisance that don't bring any cash.

I asked if there were any updates, to confirm my suspicions about your so called "support". They are now confirmed. Time to look elsewhere. Bye.

Michael

Hope you ban this guy..LOL what a troll

Sure, a troll takes all that time to write all those long responses. Don't you think it would have been much easier for me to to just say that it sucks? The "It's a troll" is just lame way of immature people like you to respond to anyone who disagrees or shows a dislike. If I were a troll, I would not have taken the time to come up with arguments. The "troll" comments just makes YOU look weak and not me.

Btw, if this program is so "great" as all of you claim, then when does he have so little customers, why isn't it so popular and why are most people willing to spend 2-10 times more on a different product? C'mon tough guys, explain that one to me... unless I'm the one dealing with the trolls. I've learned one thing after 50 years; most great products simply sell itself, period! This one isn't great enough, so it simply doesn't sell. Bye.

Wise man said:

..."Contention is the spirit of the Devil"...

The Devil never did anything short of promote wickedness, and

"Wickedness never was happiness"

Sad.

> You're just sticking your head in the sand, because all you
> see is just dollar signs with every major release, updates
> however are seen by you as a nuisance that don't bring any cash.

This is just more of the rudeness.

But there is a grain of truth in there that a lot of updates require more work.

Being a single person development team I don't have much time to spare, and one thing that helps me spend time more efficiently is to stick with working on one primary development stream and not try to bounce back and forth so much to different releases.

In general for a release once it is wrapped up I'm then focused on moving on and working on the next version.

I will roll out an update if there is some major bug that really messes things up, for example this happened with v1 that a new Internet Explorer release caused v1 to not work, so I put out a 1.1 update to address that.

So there is a possibility of an update for fixing major problems but like I mentioned I put a lot of effort into a long beta period so that the final release is high quality and if all goes well with it then I'm on to the next version and that version is done. The betas of MoI are widely used by a large number of the user base so they get a lot more coverage than what they might typically get with other programs.

Your assertion that it's all only because of $$$ is both rude and incorrect.

- Michael

Hi JDonner, you've said your final "bye" now a couple of times.

I will lock this thread now so that last one can actually be your final one.

Thanks for all your understanding about what small single person companies can do!

If you need all the trappings that go with a product from a big corporation that costs 10 times as much, then you're better off with that product and not MoI.

- Michael