Rhino - Moi : Circle on Sphere
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4202.5 In reply to 4202.3 
Hi PaQ, also looks like we posted a reply on this thread at the same time, so you may miss my long explanation above...

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 From:  PaQ
4202.6 In reply to 4202.4 
Hi Michael,

Thanks for all the info, there are so many tricks like that I have to learn, but I'm really motivated.
I was refering to this forum :

http://www.rhino3dhelp.com/forum/

but I'll give a try the newsgroup !


By the way I dont find Rhino that archaic you know, I really respect the software. I know snapping
system from some modern software much more hard to use (modo ? :)).

As I cannot copy/paste between demo version, I really need to learn the basics and get confortable
with the navigation etc.

Again that's alot for the little free lesson !!!

EDITED: 18 Apr 2011 by PAQ

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 From:  Michael Gibson
4202.7 In reply to 4202.6 
Hi PaQ,

> I was refering to this forum :
>
> http://www.rhino3dhelp.com/forum/

No, that's not the main one, you definitely want the official newsgroup from rhino3d.com - that domain above rhino3dhelp.com is different, that's someone else's forum. There is also a web interface for the official newsgroup but it's pretty terrible, you really need to have a newsreader set up to work with it well. You can find the web interface though on the support page at rhino3d.com


> By the way I dont find Rhino that archaic you know, I
> really respect the software. I know snapping
> system from some modern software much more hard to use (modo ? :))

Well, don't get me wrong - Rhino's (and AutoCAD's) snapping is quite effective, particularly in 2D - by archaic I don't particularly mean "ineffective".

For snapping in 3D there are some level of being archaic that does impact workflow though, which is the parts that were designed around working on a wireframe display like I was describing previously about "onsrf". I mean basically the reason why you can't just draw a circle on a sphere in Rhino as per your original question is because with a wireframe only display where only a few isoparms of the sphere are being displayed you don't even really think about trying to draw stuff directly in the middle of a surface unlike when you are working with a shaded display.

One other part that's generally archaic is the command-line interface that kind of works like a little DOS window at the top of the screen, where you're getting all kinds of options and settings and stuff all spewed out as wads of text. That's can also be fine in the "effective" department, but it's not what people are very used to using (with AutoCAD users as a big exception).

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4202.8 In reply to 4202.6 
Hi PaQ,

> I really need to learn the basics and get confortable
> with the navigation etc.

You'll probably be ok with navigation pretty quick.

Mousewheel for zooming, right-drag in an ortho view for panning, right drag in Perspective view for orbiting.

Hold down shift and right-drag in the Perspective view for panning there.

Use ZoomTarget to zoom into a particular region (it's like MoI's zoom area tool).

To center and fill the view on a selected object, type zsa <space> all with your left hand. Space does the same as Enter, and zsa is an alias for an old command ZoomSelectedExtentsAll.

To view everything regardless of selection use zea <space>.

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 From:  adamio
4202.9 
> I really need to learn the basics and get confortable
> with the navigation etc.

PaQ I would recommend http://adam.theoherns.com/ aka cadjunkie. (adam is also a Modo user)
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 From:  PaQ
4202.10 In reply to 4202.9 
Thanks Adamio, I just subscribe :)

Btw any thought on this one ?

http://www.infiniteskills.com/training/rhino-4-training-bundle.html

looks quite complete, but it's hard to know the quality when you dont know the subject very well.
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 From:  adamio
4202.11 In reply to 4202.10 
>>>Btw any thought on this one ?

I'm not familiar with this one, seems OK but on the other hand I'm familiar with your modeling skills...I think you should be the one teaching them ;)

The reason I recommended cadjunkie is because his knowledge on various CAD systems...I also like his subscribe model...

I also recomend to join http://news2.mcneel.com/scripts/dnewsweb.exe McNeel him self and his staff are there and every question gets answered. Very transparent company.

http://www.rhino3d.tv/

http://vimeo.com/rhino
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