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 From:  张树栋 (ARAMIS1991)
4165.1 
China paper molding some of the recommendations designed designer Language: English

Hello everybody!
-MOI is by far the best I have ever seen paper mold design software.
It's simple and elegant and beautiful pages, powerful, configure the minimum, but unfortunately the price is too high. We are here to pirated or cracked versions of popular

Hope to add some features to enable
Paste the edge edit, expand, add the serial number, any plane or command to edit these plug-ins
Want to make it render lighting effects styles model and a more optimized and enhanced.
Making it the world's best design of a software model is simple, Ibelieve more and more people will like it,

EDITED: 3 Apr 2011 by ARAMIS1991

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 From:  Michael Gibson
4165.2 In reply to 4165.1 
Hi Aramis, I'm glad that you like MoI!

> It's simple and elegant and beautiful pages, powerful,
> configure the minimum, but unfortunately the price
> is too high.

Actually, the price is much lower than the other software that you mentioned: Rhino or 3DS Max!

I've tried very hard to keep the price of MoI to be approachable and affordable.


> We are here to pirated or cracked versions of popular

Maybe you are not aware of this, but it is actually highly offensive to post about cracked or pirated versions in a software developer's official forum.

MoI is developed by a very small one person company, and piracy and cracked versions are very damaging to such a small business.

On one hand, I'm glad that you like MoI, but on the other hand it's hard not to find your post to be quite discouraging.

Actually, I'm a little confused whether your post is trying to do a spam-like advertisement or whether you are trying to say something in particular specifically about MoI....

I realize that your post is probably run through an automatic translation mechanism, maybe that has garbled what you are trying to say though.

If you are just trying to post an advertisement about pirated versions of MoI, please do not do that in this forum.

[EDIT: seems that it was not intended as spam actually, so removed a few extra griping comments about piracy that I had written here]

- Michael

EDITED: 3 Apr 2011 by MICHAEL GIBSON

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 From:  张树栋 (ARAMIS1991)
4165.3 In reply to 4165.2 
Sorry, some sad, try to avoid a similar situation,
1, hopes to strengthen capabilities in the creativity
/ Paste edge Edit / serial add / Texture Select / Lighting Rendering / layout / plugin
A good (paper model) modeling software tool, it will be a revolution.
It makes it easier for designers to more easily.
2, piracy, causes
People of this country is not rich, a month income = 2000 yuan(¥), not paying expensive software costs. 3dmax, rhino, stup ... more than 90% of pirated software. MOI2 compression price, easy to really promote here, to enjoy the service.
3, Language
Many students can not read English, the Chinese version of the introduction is a good thing. Otherwise, limit its promotion.

EDITED: 3 Apr 2011 by ARAMIS1991

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 From:  Michael Gibson
4165.4 In reply to 4165.3 
Hi Aramis, sorry that I did not understand what you had written previously. It kind of sounded like you were trying to promote a web site with a pirated version of MoI or something like that. Sorry that I misunderstood.


> 3, Language
> Many students can not read English, the Chinese version of the
> introduction is a good thing. Otherwise, limit its promotion.

There is actually a Chinese language version available, check out here for some more information:
http://www.moi3dasia.com/chinese/index.php


I do want to work on more options for 2D output in the future, such as some printing and 2D annotation type stuff.


re: cost - there isn't really a good way for me to reduce the cost by a lot, as I wrote before I've actually put the cost to be quite low in comparison to many other generally similar programs already. Trying to make something that is even lower in cost would then require a higher volume in sales for it to provide me the same income. For MoI that's not an easy thing to do because it requires a fair amount of support burden which would be greatly increased with a higher volume, and also a high sales volume doesn't happen all by itself, it requires a lot of work on marketing in order to make it happen and that's not an area that I particularly like to spend a lot of time working on.

So that's why doing an even lower cost approach than the current already relatively low price (when compared to other CAD programs) just does not work for me - it's actually not a particular business goal of mine to specifically have a huge user base, I'm kind of more focused on having a somewhat smaller user base that I'm able to work directly with more easily.

- Michael
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 From:  Mike (MIKE1138)
4165.5 In reply to 4165.3 
I think aramis wants to convey that MOI is a great deal for the price, fighting piracy because its cheaper than all competitors. So when you add more features, it will become even more popular.

One day we´ll have a working universal translator, I wonder if this will really bring us all closer together.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4165.6 In reply to 4165.5 
Hi Mike, yeah but his original post before it was edited contained a link to some kind of discussion board making it look a whole lot like some kind of spam advertisement.

From what I follow, he's actually saying that MoI is actually not cheap enough for Chinese people to purchase it rather than using pirated software. The vast majority of software used in China is actually pirated rather than purchased. If MoI was very very cheap like something on the order of $30 US dollars, then yes possibly more people in China would purchase it rather than pirate it, but as I described above producing software at that really low kind of price point is a whole different kind of approach that doesn't really suit my own business goals that well.

- Michael
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 From:  AlexS (ALEKSEI)
4165.7 In reply to 4165.6 
At Chineses the small salary? Hа :) At me the salary in a month = 12.000 roubles = $400. And you receive 2000 yuans (60.000 roubles) and say that it isn't enough.

МoI3D the best program which I met. In it it is better to model, than in Rhino, but it doesn't have not enough some tools which are in Rhino.

Also wanted to ask a question: whether there are lessons of Moi3d JavaScript? The description which is at you on a site, for me isn't clear, as translators incorrectly translate technical English.
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 From:  futagoza (STEFAN)
4165.8 In reply to 4165.7 
Hi Alex,

my Dashboard Widget tells me that his income is lower.

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 From:  Michael Gibson
4165.9 In reply to 4165.7 
Hi Alex, currently there aren't any tutorials for creating scripts in MoI. Those take quite a bit of time to develop and also support. Right now just developing the more regular user tools (like just the regular modeling tools) has priority over working on developer-related tools.

It is an area that I'd like to work on at some point in the future though.

Currently all the resources for scripting (there is some reference material but not really any tutorials) are linked to from this page here:
http://moi3d.com/wiki/Scripting

- Michael
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 From:  BurrMan
4165.10 In reply to 4165.7 
""""""""""At me the salary in a month = 12.000 roubles """"""""""""""""

I am proud of you for choosing this path...

For aramis. if he can get the initial purchase eaked out, the upgrade cost for future is minimal (in relation).. For this last release, it was 100.00. MoI is still under a building stage (As opposed to an enhancment only stage) And I am sure it will be the ultimatly powerful application you are hoping for....

Be sure to tell anybody you see with stolen software, this last line here:


For one that may want to have the opportunity to participate, One path leads to ( insert word for personal success here)... The other leads to (insert word for failure here).
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 From:  Paolo (PAOLOLOBBIA)
4165.11 In reply to 4165.1 
Hi (ARAMIS1991),

If the future technology allows it i would like to copy an paste a cracked version,
of a real (Physical) Porsche or Ferrari.
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 From:  AlexS (ALEKSEI)
4165.12 
Excuse me, and especially Aramis. I have incorrectly translated yuans in roubles. I am sorry :(

Michael, and how many people work over MoI3D?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4165.13 In reply to 4165.12 
Hi Alex,

> Michael, and how many people work over MoI3D?

Just 1 person.

- Michael
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 From:  BurrMan
4165.14 In reply to 4165.13 
"""""Just 1 person.""""""

Mrs. MoI = personnel Manager? Staff Psychologist (for overall health and well being)? Comany purpose (as opposed to mission)? True power behind Triple Squid? etc, etc...... lol
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4165.15 In reply to 4165.14 
Hi Burr, well there is also a rabbit JoJo - I have an org chart on my wall that does show that she's my manager.

- Michael
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 From:  BurrMan
4165.16 In reply to 4165.15 
""""" well there is also a rabbit JoJo"""""""

ahhhh. Every company has a funny bunny. You have to ignore that one to get any real work done..

"""""""""I have an org chart on my wall that does show that she's my manager.""""""""""

Yeah, I knew you were smart..........
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 From:  张树栋 (ARAMIS1991)
4165.17 In reply to 4165.16 
Thank you! As the friend said.

$ 20-30 will be a lot of people began to buy genuine.
New features, upgrades, continue to pay 5-10$ dollars it would be very popular.
Please select a very convenient way to pay (CHINA)

A material / texture library MOI2 users (paid 10 $ opening)
Set up a special MOI2 learning site
Three-dimensional model library MOI2 users (paid 10 $ opening)
Rendering, VARY
I believe MIO2 to over three million users, (CHINA)

Rating MOI2 rhinosr6 3dmax2011 sketchup6.0
Configuration √ - × √
File size 13MB√ 94MB 900MB 70MB√
Interface √ × × -
Plug - √ - √
Rendering - √ varyfor √ varyfor √varyfor
Modeling speed √ - - √
PLANAR - √ - -
---Analysis,
MOI2 rendering, lighting, plug-in for more improvements.
MOI2 low price, easy to learn, rapid spread and occupy the market, and launched a series of paid services.

China has ten million students at school, they are eager to come out MOI2
China's weak intellectual property protection, designers $ 120-400, inflation, twenty more taxes, welfare is poor, life is stressful.
Stressed in a certain area MOI2 best ! Model / Toy / interior decoration

Chinese students began to try [(80%) of the interior decoration and real estate development]
(CAD → sketchup6.0 → 3dmax)
MOI2 is a revolutionary invention!
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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
4165.18 In reply to 4165.17 
Wow Michael ... what a great opportunity.
You could be a dead millionaire from the stress of having to handle all the questions posed by the millions of new users. :)
cheers,
eric
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4165.19 In reply to 4165.17 
Hi Aramis, the problem is that I don't think that I really want to have 3 million users of MoI - the things that people do with MoI are complex enough that it would not be possible for me to support that volume of people just all by myself.

I would need to grow the company in size, hire a lot of people, spend a lot of my time in meetings and in management related activities... That's a lot of stuff that I don't like to do, so to me that would actually seem like a way to ruin my business, not really an improvement.

Although I would like for MoI to become more popular and more widely used over time, the kind of thing that you're talking about wiht a very low price like $20 and a very high volume like millions of users, is not really what I would like to do. There would especially need to be a big focus on marketing with that kind of strategy and that's pretty much one of the business areas that I dislike working in the most.

So I'm sorry, but the plan that you describe does not at all fit in well with my own goals...

- Michael
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 From:  张树栋 (ARAMIS1991)
4165.20 In reply to 4165.19 
Thank you for your answer! Teacher!

To meet this economy.(china)
I would buy genuine.

This is just a suggestion. I hope you and your company will be better.

If possible!
Willing to promote (MOI), write tutorials and books.
(MOI) should create a model library, and bundled into (MOI), the more competitive. Greatly simplifies the designer's work. Can get rid of Google (Sketchup6.0)

Teacher! I did not expect (MOI) also has a (dimmer) (simple rendering) function.
Very simple and very good!
MOL2 really is a great software!
Work hard! As you pay tribute! Great software programmers!
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