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 From:  sk2k
380.13 
All what i can say is that i do don't want such things around my objects. :) Or do they appear only around selected objects?

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 From:  MrBraun (LORENZO)
380.14 
Really great Michael!!

Only one thing: i have seen that if i have a array like a chain, Moi slow down! ;)
The 3d View are really slow! ;)

If i open the model into Rhino, the 3dView are more fast!

How i can improve it?
Have in MOI the possibility to see only wireframe into 3dview?

Tnx in advance for the reply! ;)

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
380.15 In reply to 380.12 
Does this "Plan image" can be "snaped on the grid?
Can be rotated in the 3D Space as a simple "Plan" ?
Can we have something different than Audi? :)
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 From:  tyglik
380.16 In reply to 380.13 
>>All what i can say is that i do don't want such things around my objects. :) Or do they appear only around selected objects?

I guess the frame with a corner grips will show only around selected objects when you run a particular command like Rotate or Move... Petr
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 From:  Michael Gibson
380.17 In reply to 380.13 
> All what i can say is that i do don't want such things around my objects. :)
> Or do they appear only around selected objects?

Hi Tony, for the next beta it will only appear around each background image, and only while you are inside the View/Image command.

In version 2.0, I do expect to have them around a regular object as well, but there will only be one single frame that will appear around all selected objects. I will include some way to turn it on or off.

But I don't expect it to be much of a problem, the frame isn't too heavy and is pretty transparent until you move over a part of it. It is also offset from the object by a bit so it doesn't interfere with grabbing any point on the actual object. But it will get a bit more complex when it frames a 3D shape instead of a planar one though.

The current frames provides just for scaling background images right now, but they are sort of a "proof of concept" for how a general object frame might work later on.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
380.18 In reply to 380.14 
Hi Lorenzo,

> Only one thing: i have seen that if i have a array like a chain, Moi slow down! ;)
> The 3d View are really slow! ;)
>
> If i open the model into Rhino, the 3dView are more fast!
>
> How i can improve it?

This is because Rhino is only drawing the wireframe and isn't drawing the shaded surfaces.

MoI by default draws surfaces at a pretty high density. Normally this is nice because you get to see your models looking nice and smooth instead of seeing the polygons very much.

But if you have a very dense model with a lot of curved pieces (like a chain), then the default high detail display will cause quite a lot of polygons to be drawn, which can slow things down quite a bit.

One way to speed it up is to decrease the display density - to do this go to Options, and inside "Meshing parameters", change "Surface angle" and "Trim curve angle" to something like 30 degrees. This will make the display a lot rougher (you will be able to see the polygons making up the display), but it should also be faster.

You might also uncheck "Display hidden-line curves" and "Display hidden-line edges" to speed things up a bit. Remember to turn these back on when you switch back to working on a more simple model.


> Have in MOI the possibility to see only wireframe into 3dview?

Not for version 1.0 . Bu I do want to add this in to a future version though, it will probably be the biggest help to working with higher density models.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
380.19 In reply to 380.15 
Hi Pilou,

> Does this "Plan image" can be "snaped on the grid?

Yes, I just finished the part for moving images around. So scaling and moving images will be possible with this new beta.


> Can be rotated in the 3D Space as a simple "Plan" ?

Nope, I didn't get to rotation yet. I might give this a try a bit tomorrow, but I didn't want to hold up releasing the new beta for it. It's not really a big issue for most backdrop images, but I would like to explore a couple of more concepts for the frame editing.


> Can we have something different than Audi? :)

No, only Audi. :)

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
380.20 In reply to 380.16 
Hi Petr,

> I guess the frame with a corner grips will show only around selected
> objects when you run a particular command like Rotate or Move... Petr

The idea would be that there would just be one frame around all selected objects, but the frame would display all the time, not just within Rotate or Move commands. The purpose of the frame will be to make it possible to do some interactive rotation or scaling in a more immediate way, without having to use the Rotate or Scale commands.

Anyway, this won't be ready for regular objects until a future version, but the image frames for this new beta gives an idea on how it might work, so it would be good to hear what people think of that.

- Michael
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 From:  MrBraun (LORENZO)
380.21 
Tnx for the answer Michael! ;=)

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 From:  Corzair (SUHAIB)
380.22 In reply to 380.21 

really good work on the new beta and direct3d optimisation

Now Moi3D running my tablet pc is a but more responsive ;-)

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 From:  nacho65 (JUANGALVAN)
380.23 In reply to 380.3 
Hi Michael:

Today it downladed the version of February

1. - it install on the first one
2. - or it remove the previous one
3. - desists him the previous one

that I should make?

Best regards

Juan Galvan
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
380.24 In reply to 380.23 
You can keep the old one :)
So you can make as you want each version beta are unconnected!
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 From:  Michael Gibson
380.25 In reply to 380.23 
Yes, I recommend just install to the default location which is in its own folder separate from the previous beta.

Once you feel like the new beta is working ok and you don't need the old one anymore you can uninstall the old one.

Each beta is self contained (except for sharing the same moi.ini settings file), you can have multiple beta versions on your machine at the same time with no problem.

- Michael
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