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 From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU) 10 Sep 2010  (1 of 20)
 Does exist something in color that show if a line is parallal to an axe? Like Z = Blue X= Red y = Green ... --- Pilou Is beautiful that please without concept! My Gallery

 From: Phil (PHILBO) 10 Sep 2010  (2 of 20)
 3766.2 In reply to 3766.1 Ohhh....I like that idea.

 From: Michael Gibson 10 Sep 2010  (3 of 20)
 3766.3 In reply to 3766.1 Hi Pilou, > Does exist something in color that show if a line is parallal to an axe? No, because there is already a different mechanism (Styles) that controls the colors of objects. An object can be only one color, so it isn't very easy to have more than one system that is trying to control the same color at the same time - that would cause one of those systems to be effectively canceled out. - Michael

 From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU) 10 Sep 2010  (4 of 20)
 3766.4 In reply to 3766.3 THX I will have maybe more chance for the next :) --- Pilou Is beautiful that please without concept! My Gallery

 From: unclecharlie 11 Sep 2010  (5 of 20)
 Are construction lines subject to styles? I have seen the little X, Y and Z pop up with construction lines but colored construction lines would be more noticeable. Those of us that have used Sketchup learn to love that inference engine.

 From: Michael Gibson 11 Sep 2010  (6 of 20)

 From: Michael Gibson 11 Sep 2010  (7 of 20)
 3766.7 In reply to 3766.5 Here's another example that MoI's construction lines can do because they have a start and end point (and thus have a distance associated with them), unlike inference lines that only radiate rays out from a single point. When you define a cline between these 2 points: Not only is the midpoint between them available as a snap (or any division like thirds or fifths, etc... if you pop up the menu and activate that), there are also snaps available at that same distance reflected over, like this: That enables you to do things like make a construction line perpendicular to a center line and then get the point on the opposite site, here's an example, note that when dropping the cline to the center line, the mirrored point on the opposite side is then available: - Michael

 From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU) 11 Sep 2010  (8 of 20)
 Yes helpers lines rocks but it's more for "construction" of the object or verify one object I see more something like that :) Say you have some separated volumes (100) on a ground flat plan in a 3D view you can see in a flash those who are not parallal between us or not perpendicular to the plan with the system of colored edges axes ;) Or in a front view those who seems vertical at the eyes but who are not because there is 0.5 ° deviation etc... if it's not a "flat ground" I use the Custom Plan ;) (in this case colored 3 axes must follow for adapt to the volumes who are not changed! ) Of course colored system must be disable / enable at any moment ;) It's a cool tool of speedy verification EDITED: 11 Sep 2010 by PILOU

 From: Michael Gibson 11 Sep 2010  (9 of 20)
 3766.9 In reply to 3766.8 Hi Pilou, yeah so what you are describing there would be what I would call an "analysis mode", where you switched to some special view mode that made the view look different than the regular modeling mode so you could look at some special information or displays. In the future I want to have some different modes like that, like for instance Zebra stripe mode is one for analyzing surface continuity with reflection lines. A special analysis mode for what you are describing could be possible, I guess but I think it's use would be pretty limited - it would only work perfectly if the only objects you were constructing were just boxes, and they would even have to be particular boxes that were aligned to the world axes. It would be easy to get alarmed and think there are problems where there are actually none. Take for instance this box here which is just rotated so it is not aligned to the x/y axes: Now if you go to the front view and turned on this mode that you were talking about, you would see only these lines in blue: The other lines are not aligned to the world axis directions, so they would remain uncolored I guess you are saying? So then you would see those lines and think, "oh no, they are not straight, they are some 0.5 degrees off or something", when actually they are not... - Michael Attachments:

 From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU) 11 Sep 2010  (10 of 20)
 3766.10 In reply to 3766.9 If your box is just rotated around the z axis i believe i will see that else not that is not a rectangular box or edges are not // to the plan but you right it's just a system for the straight lines EDITED: 11 Sep 2010 by PILOU Attachments:

 From: Michael Gibson 11 Sep 2010  (11 of 20)
 3766.11 In reply to 3766.10 Hi Pilou, > If your box is just rotated around the z axis > i believe i will see that Right, so now these edges here do not have any colors on them: So because those are not colored, would you then worry that they are also not flat, that they may have some small 0.5 angle degree from being horizontal? However, they are actually in the horizontal plane... I would be kind of concerned that such a mode would make you mistakenly worry that some edges were not proper when there is not really anything wrong with them. - Michael Attachments:

 From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU) 12 Sep 2010  (12 of 20)
 3766.12 In reply to 3766.11 < So because those are not colored, would you then worry that they are also not flat, that they may have some small 0.5 angle degree from being horizontal? yes but almost they are not colored because they have not the same orientation than axis ! so just 6 colors red, green, blue (dark or bushy...dashed...) verify if same orientation than axis red, green, blue (ligth tiny...dashed...) or 3 other colors for being // a plan axis but not same oriention (middle case don't exist in sketchup) for middle case that must say that object must know original position :) or used another same color (orange) who replace tiny red and tiny green that explain // at a plan X,Y EDITED: 12 Sep 2010 by PILOU Image Attachments:

 From: Michael Gibson 12 Sep 2010  (13 of 20)
 3766.13 In reply to 3766.12 Hi Pilou, > yes but almost > they are not colored because they have not the same > orientation than axis ! Yes, but notice that the box is still all correct - all 90 degree angles, etc... Just because it is not aligned to the world axes does not mean that it is automatically a "bad" box or something like that... > so just 6 colors > red, green, blue (dark or bushy...dashed...) verify if same > orientation than axis Sounds like it is getting quite complicated, with so many different colors... What about hidden lines? Would hidden lines be displayed in their regular faint dashed colors? So how would you tell the difference between a hidden-line blue line and a special dashed blue line? Do you know of any other program that displays lines in this way? It could be helpful for me to see an example of it in action to see if it feels natural or if it feels strange... - Michael

 From: Michael Gibson 12 Sep 2010  (14 of 20)
 3766.14 In reply to 3766.12 So is that actually a direct SketchUp screenshot that you showed there, or are you painting those lines in on top of a screenshot? If it is a direct screenshot, how do you make it show like that, is there a special plugin or something like that? - Michael

 From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU) 12 Sep 2010  (15 of 20)
 3766.15 In reply to 3766.14 yes middle case don't exist in Sketchup (maybe by plugin i must research) (so it's a retouched image) for middle case that must say that object must know original position :) or used another same color (orange) who replace tiny red and tiny green that explain // at a plan X,Y For hidden lines no problem: use a dashed line with same color than visible lines ;) visible lines must be not dashed < if it feels natural or if it feels strange... just instant view as you toggle in a click :) Don't know if exist on another prog but I presume :) But as you said it's helped for box volumes or volumes who have straight edges inside ;) EDITED: 12 Sep 2010 by PILOU

 From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU) 12 Sep 2010  (16 of 20)
 it's current use in architecture ;) If I rotate (horizontal) red and green lines disapear, will be fun if they stay or change in another color different than black current Rotate all building in rotation different than horizontal is not pertinent ;) (research of the SU plug is launched ;) by F L W ;) EDITED: 12 Sep 2010 by PILOU Attachments:

 From: Michael Gibson 12 Sep 2010  (17 of 20)
 3766.17 In reply to 3766.15 Hi Pilou, > middle case don't exist in Sketchup (maybe by plugin i must research) > (so it's a retouched image) What about the other cases, are those something that you can turn on in SketchUp? If so, how? Are they a style that you set or a special mode? Maybe in MoI v3 an easy way to make this would be to have a plug-in that set the edge colors like that for lines. It's not easy to make a plugin for that currently in v2 because a script does not currently have any way to know if an edge is a line or not. But once I add that in for v3 it would then be possible to make a script to set edge colors like this. - Michael