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 From:  Nick (BODINI)
3617.29 In reply to 3617.28 
Thanks for your attention Michael. I do have the latest Chrome (as you do) and it pretty much looks like Pilou's screen shot (too big and looks like bold is on). Yes, I could scroll wheel the size down, but the fact that it has to be done says somethings not right to me. But really, dont sweat it, I was only giving feedback FYI. :-) Yes, I refreshed the browser.

-->on further inspection, its mostly the forum that looks like this. although the sidebar on the main page looks similar.
-->also, i went 'under the hood' in chrome and 'obliterated' all the history data. still looks the same.

EDITED: 23 Jun 2010 by BODINI

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 From:  Michael Gibson
3617.30 In reply to 3617.29 
Hi Nick, well what you show there looks like how it is supposed to at least for the moment.

Unfortunately it's pretty difficult to get a default font size that looks the same on everyone's computer and web browser.

Maybe I will notch the default down in size slightly.

- Michael
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 From:  BurrMan
3617.31 In reply to 3617.30 
I was struck with the size at first also. Thought I had inadvertently hit some kind of text size option in my browser. Perhaps down one notch wouldnt hurt much....
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 From:  coi (MARCO)
3617.32 In reply to 3617.30 
Hi Michael..

the official "fiddling around with fonts in css"-guide includes..



a really good article about font-sizing in general:

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/howtosizetextincss/


a popular testing suite:

http://browsershots.org


and the swiss army knife of web development:

http://uitest.com



best wishes,
marco
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 From:  BurrMan
3617.33 In reply to 3617.31 
I dont want to harp on it either, but noticed this. The size is only in the forum. The home and resources and all the other pages remain as I am used to or expected. Just the forum comes up like it's magnified.

If I use Ctrl+Minus twice, it sizes the same as the rest of the site. That would be 20% smaller.

FYI.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3617.34 In reply to 3617.32 
Hi marco, yup I'm familiar with those first 2.

The main thing that is annoying with CSS font sizing is that there is a lot different behavior between different browsers - WebKit and Opera do not handle point text sizes in a good way, they don't actually use the DPI of your screen.

Normally in a desktop application when you want to create text at say 10pt height, you calculate the corresponding pixel size by applying the screen DPI, so that the actual pixel height is calibrated by the user's DPI setting.

It does work that way in IE and Firefox, but unfortunately in WebKit and Opera, they just seem to ignore the screen DPI setting and pretend that it's always a fixed value. That results in a smaller font size in those browsers in higher DPI situations. But I guess if I worry about fixing that then I get too large of a size in other cases so I guess I'll just have to let WebKit and Opera users scale up text if it is too small.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3617.35 
Ok, the font size should be back to the same as it used to be.

If you've moved the size up or down, you can use Ctrl+0 (Ctrl+Zero) to return to the default size again.

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
3617.36 
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3617.37 In reply to 3617.36 
Hi Pilou - Safari is based off of the WebKit engine same as Chrome.

- Michael
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 From:  ycarry
3617.38 
I use Safari 5 ... and all is fine ;)
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3617.39 In reply to 3617.38 
Hi ycarry, yup the size issue should be resolved now.

Just a few more tweaks to do...

- Michael
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 From:  PaQ
3617.40 In reply to 3617.39 
Hi Michael,

I got some strange triple scroll bar depending of the page resolution, IE8/Win7 64

EDIT: Ok the zoom page was at 105%, everything turns ok at 100%

EDITED: 3 Dec 2015 by PAQ

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 From:  Michael Gibson
3617.41 In reply to 3617.40 
Hi PaQ,

> I got some strange triple scroll bar depending of the page resolution, IE8/Win7 64

Weird one, thanks for reporting this.

It looks like a bug in IE8 but I think I have tweaked things now to avoid it, can you please try pushing F5 to reload and then see if adjusting the zoom does not cause the triple scroll anymore?

- Michael
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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
3617.42 In reply to 3617.20 
Hi Michael ...

I was just playing with Chrome Browser. It does not ask me for a login ... just goes directly to the forum.

It does not display 'unread discussions' as an option.

I'll just stay with Firefox ... but thought you should know these things.

cheers,
eric
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 From:  olio
3617.43 In reply to 3617.42 
Why not outsource website development, and focus on V3?
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 From:  3DKiwi
3617.44 
I use Chrome and get the forum logon screen every time I visit the forum from a direct link to the forums. I also get the unread discussions option.

Re out sourcing website development. I doubt Michael spends a huge amount of time on the website. What we've got is pretty straight forward and the few changes he's made probably don't take too much of his time. A web developer would probably want to add all sorts of bells and whistles rather than keeping things simple and easy to use.

Good to see the font size reduced. It was far to big for me at default size.

3DKiwi
Homepages: 3dkiwi.co.nz & C4D Cafe
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3617.45 In reply to 3617.42 
Hi eric,

> I was just playing with Chrome Browser. It does not ask me
> for a login ... just goes directly to the forum.
>
> It does not display 'unread discussions' as an option.

That means that it was viewing the forum as a "guest" user. Unread messages are not tracked for guest users, only for logged in users.

When you're viewing as a guest, there will be a login option on the top bar here:




I think once you have logged in once it will then take you to the login page initially after that, or something along those lines.

If you still run into problems with not going to the login page initially, you may need to alter the link that you are using to access the forum initially, try this one:
http://moi3d.com/forum

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3617.46 In reply to 3617.43 
Hi olio,

> Why not outsource website development, and focus on V3?

Same reason various other things are not outsourced - it costs a lot money and it also can take quite a bit of time involved with back and forth communication to make sure I would get what I wanted.

I may do it at some point in the future though.

- Michael
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 From:  PaQ
3617.47 In reply to 3617.46 
Hi Michael, the triple scroll bar is fixed .
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3617.48 
I've added a nav strip at the top of the message display for going to different pages of messages in the thread in addition to the nav strip at the bottom.

So now you don't have to scroll to the bottom to go to different pages.



- Michael
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