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 From:  Michael Gibson
3530.21 In reply to 3530.20 
Hi Burr, yeah it's the sort of "unintended segmentation" that would be good to avoid.

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 From:  FiL (FILIPPOL)
3530.22 In reply to 3530.8 
Hi BurrMan,

>rebuild command

Where is in MOI?

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 From:  Michael Gibson
3530.23 In reply to 3530.22 
Hi FiL, some info on Rebuild here:
http://moi3d.com/2.0/docs/moi_command_reference10.htm#rebuild

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 From:  FiL (FILIPPOL)
3530.24 In reply to 3530.23 
A command without button?

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 From:  Michael Gibson
3530.25 In reply to 3530.24 
Hi FiL, yes that's correct there is not a button for it yet. I have not quite figured out the right spot to put it in the UI - that's one of the problems with making a nice uncluttered UI, it sometimes takes a long time to design it well.

One of the easiest ways that a program can lose its simplicity is just by adding in a whole ton of stuff so that there are a bazillion icons all over the place...


So for now you have to launch this command by setting up a keyboard shortcut or by typing in the command name.

In the future I do expect to figure out a good place to add it to the UI where it will have a button or be on a menu of some sort.

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 From:  FiL (FILIPPOL)
3530.26 In reply to 3530.25 
HI Michael, ok. Thanks.

...You can put the buttom in a window or in a menu near the buttom of the coffee break or beer break... or lunch break like I need now :)
Thanks for your good work.
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 From:  NightCabbage
3530.27 
Hi Michael

I didn't know about the rebuild command either - are there any other gems hiding away? :)

Also, may I suggest a simple temporary fix for these commands that don't seem to fit anywhere neat, until you know where to put them?

Create a new Miscellaneous button, where all such commands can be placed if they don't fit anywhere else - otherwise people (like me lol) don't know about them, and they can be very useful :D
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
3530.28 In reply to 3530.27 
< are there any other gems hiding away?
Sure you must see with attention this page ;)
http://kyticka.webzdarma.cz/3d/moi/

And aespecialy ;)
http://kyticka.webzdarma.cz/3d/moi/doc/V2releasenotes.html#V2-out
rebuild function was inside :)

EDITED: 7 Jul 2010 by PILOU

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 From:  BurrMan
3530.29 In reply to 3530.26 
FIL,
Hit the Beer break button. I'm there with you!!! :o
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3530.30 In reply to 3530.27 
Hi NightCabbage,

> I didn't know about the rebuild command either - are there
> any other gems hiding away? :)

Well, they're only hidden if you have not read the help file... :)

The ones that don't have buttons yet are listed in the "Additional commands" section of the help file here:
http://moi3d.com/2.0/docs/moi_command_reference10.htm#Additional%20commands


> Create a new Miscellaneous button, where all such
> commands can be placed if they don't fit anywhere
> else - otherwise people (like me lol) don't know about
> them, and they can be very useful

That may be similar to where they actually end up going as the official non-temporary place.

But in general I try to avoid making some kind of UI with a lot of stuff in it without carefully thinking it through.

What tends to happen is that "temporary" UI ends up getting kind of entrenched and essentially becomes the final version even though it was never carefully designed in the first place.

- Michael
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 From:  NightCabbage
3530.31 
Yeah, slippery slope, isn't it :P

But, I guess if the commands are useful, they should fit somewhere :)

Maybe there needs to be a "Line Operations" category, where things like trim, extend, and rebuild go?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3530.32 In reply to 3530.31 
Hi NightCabbage,

> But, I guess if the commands are useful, they should
> fit somewhere :)

Yup, the current situation is only temporary. I'm going to try to find a place to fit them.


> Maybe there needs to be a "Line Operations" category, where
> things like trim, extend, and rebuild go?

Well, unfortunately it's not quite so simple as that either - for example the Trim command can trim surfaces or curves, not only curves.

So if it was only found in a "Line Operations" category, that would make it hard for someone to find it who wanted a surface trimming tool.

Similarly at some point in the future I do expect for both Extend and Rebuild to be able to work with surfaces as well and not only curves.

- Michael
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