Any idea when V.2 will be released for purchase?
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 From:  Anis
3181.11 In reply to 3181.10 
Hi Guys....

Today is the second year of MoI3D V2 development.
Hopefully the V2 will be release soon :)

Thanks !
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3181.12 In reply to 3181.11 
Hi Anis, yes hopefully soon!

Pretty much in some final stages of bug fixing at the moment.

It's unfortunately hard to exactly predict how much time these things will take to get it right.

I could go faster if you would prefer to have more bugs in the software instead of it being higher quality. Do you think it would be better to have it out faster but at less quality?

- Michael
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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
3181.13 In reply to 3181.12 
My 2 cents ....

Keep going for quality, Michael!

We users do get impatient, to be sure, but that is only because MoI works so well for us. If the software updates were full of bugs we we would not be so eager for updates.

cheers,
eric
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 From:  Ralf-S
3181.14 
Eric, :)

I agree with your opinion 100%.

Ralf
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 From:  -ash-
3181.15 In reply to 3181.14 
Quality over speed every time.

Though don't understand what the hurry is. I'm using V2 now. What difference does it make when it is released? It won't be hugely different from the current beta. as has been said already, waiting for the V2 release doesn't cost any more either. Take your time Michael and do you what you feel you need to.

Anyway not too long after V2 release we'll all be using V3 (beta). After Michael has had a well deserved break that is :-)

Regards
Tony

(aka HamSoles)

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 From:  JTB
3181.16 
Your post is exactly why I always thought that Michael shouldn't release the last 2-3 betas... He should keep 2-3 new features for surprise... Now we practically have nothing to wait for...
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 From:  -ash-
3181.17 In reply to 3181.16 
>> Your post is exactly why I always thought that Michael shouldn't release the last 2-3 betas
>> He should keep 2-3 new features for surprise... Now we practically have nothing to wait for...

Yes, it would give something to anticipate. But then the last features wouldn't have had the extensive testing that we have all put in to it :)

I like it this way. I know exactly what I am paying for, have thoroughly tested it on my system and have been able to have an influence on new features and how things work.

For my money, this hands down beats anticipating the 'cool' new features just to find that they don't work as I expect or even worse are broken on my system.

Cheers.
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 From:  Grendel
3181.18 
Ash - I agree 100% with you on that. So much nicer getting to use the new features and working them into you workflow gradually as available rather than a bag of cool stuff that may or may not work for you. You get an extended preview so you can make an informed decision before parting with your upgrade money.

Not that a vendor would ever say that the next version was anything but the re-invention of sliced bread that completely turns the universe upside down with the addition of it's new flux capacitor widget...........:P) I think we've all heard that one before.....with the exception of maybe the pocket fisherman or the slap-chop....lol

I would not change a thing about your development progress Michael, keep up the great work.
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 From:  WillBellJr
3181.19 In reply to 3181.17 
Agreed, I've always liked Michael's development style (I swear I used to think that McNeel was Michael's company! :-P )

Buy the current version, test and bang on the beta of the upcoming version, rinse and repeat...


To me the upgrade price is basically a club ticket to play with the next, upcoming version.


-Will
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 From:  -ash-
3181.20 In reply to 3181.19 
>> To me the upgrade price is basically a club ticket to play with the next, upcoming version.

This is true. I didn't get this at first. For me beta versions had always been unstable and definitely not suitable for anything other than testing.

But when I read that people had been using the MoI V1 beta without crashes for months and months I jumped in with the V2. It was the cplane that did it for me. After that never looked back :-)

Absolutely marvelous experience in these days of; 'just get it out, we'll fix it later', 'got to hit that market window' and 'ticking the box' attitudes to product development.

Great stuff Michael!

Regards
Tony

(aka HamSoles)

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 From:  BurrMan
3181.21 In reply to 3181.20 
I dont think that there is really any other company that is putting stuff to market with the intent to fix it later and screw the customer. I think the huge difference is Michael is a one man show. Other companies have a team of guys, and also "director's". This intorduces many bugs and problems into there workflow. Decisions get made about areas and items by people who have no business making those decisions.

Look at the focus and detail put into MoI and adhered to. It makes all the difference.
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 From:  -ash-
3181.22 In reply to 3181.21 
Hi Burr,

Never meant to imply that there was intent. But as you pointed out that's what happens.

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Tony

(aka HamSoles)

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 From:  BurrMan
3181.23 In reply to 3181.22 
Hi Ash,
I suppose my main intent of the post was to point out Michaels quality and my personal opinion as to why he can acheive this.

Michaels output is more DELTA than anything. Havnt ever really BETA'd anything. Finding a glitch in the geometry library that needs fixing is hardly beta.
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 From:  rayman
3181.24 
If you geta beta from Michael its like a delta or epsilon release from another company.....
Its so stable !!!!!!! ; )
I can say you can use it for any project that need a stable software.. its awsome !
I hardly had any crashes i would have reported them.....
The moment you buy the final release of V2 not very long after you get the next stable version to work with with some more bells and whistles...
Thanks
Peter
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