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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
3174.16 In reply to 3174.4 
Wow Michael,

Thanks for your very thorough explanation ... and the result.

When I have had a chance to go through you solution I think it will work well for me.

I didn't really expect MoI to cut the trapezoidal slope on the horizontal segments but thought maybe I could plane them off afterward if the result was a rectangular section throughout.

I could not have thought to try your boolean solution ... brilliant!!

cheers,
eric
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3174.17 In reply to 3174.16 
Hi eric,

> I didn't really expect MoI to cut the trapezoidal slope on the horizontal
> segments but thought maybe I could plane them off afterward if the
> result was a rectangular section throughout.

Yeah but sweep doesn't really understand that you want to alter the shape later - the miter corner thing is expecting to have things match up right at the sweep time...

There is a way you could get something like that to work though - if you use Edit/Separate on your path so that each line segment gets treated as an individual sweep path rather than as a connected path.

That will then produce something exactly like a set of simple boards for each line segment, without doing any corner mitering. But then you're going to need to handle extending and doing some of those additional cuts more manually.

The boolean method basically incorporates the planing for everything all in one shot. But also it kind of makes the result more as one combined piece (with the proper shape you are looking for I think though), not necessarily like a set of individual board pieces like a sweep type method would produce.

- Michael
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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
3174.18 In reply to 3174.17 
Hi Michael ...

It would be rare when I would actually need the fascia to be individual ... I think the boolean solution will work well in most cases. It is mostly the need to do it quickly and have it as an entity for rendering purposes.

Thanks for your effort on this.

The new sweep works great on window and door frames and I am sure lots of other things I'll be doing.

cheers,
eric
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
3174.19 In reply to 3174.13 
< I used the Rebuild command
Sorry where is it? It's a short cut?
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
3174.20 In reply to 3174.14 
@ Anis: Cool but you miss one level axis! ;)

A super stormbrain book about auto reference and other crazzy things!
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3174.21 In reply to 3174.19 
Hi Pilou,

> Sorry where is it? It's a short cut?

I have not figured out a place to put it in the UI yet, so to call it you have to set up a keyboard shortcut for it.

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
3174.22 In reply to 3174.21 
Ah ok! I see it now in the file commands :)

So about the text curves a simple Join curves is not sufficient?
(just to be sure :) )
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3174.23 In reply to 3174.22 
Hi Pilou,

> So about the text curves a simple Join curves is not sufficient?
> (just to be sure :) )

Well, Join is kind of like a grouping function, it forms a curve that has all the joined parts as segments within it.

Join does not itself attempt to simplify or greatly change the structure of the pieces being joined.

If you have a badly segmented and fractured curve with messy control points, tons of little pieces, etc... then Join does not automatically solve that, your joined result will still have a ton of individual segments inside of it instead of simplified cleaner segments.

Some kinds of surfacing operations try to preserve the segmented nature of your input curves, so if you have a overly fractured segmentation you will also get fragmented results in the sweep (made up of many surface pieces instead of fewer for example).

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
3174.24 In reply to 3174.23 
Thx for the precisions!
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3174.25 In reply to 3174.24 
Hi Pilou, also one other note - the reason why Join does not try to automatically change your curve structure is that is can be bad in many circumstances to do that, because it means you would get different behavior (like different number of pieces, etc...) when then doing a Separate later on to try and do some work on individual pieces again.

It's nice for Join to remain symmetrical with Separate. That's why it will be generally set up to use some other commands to alter a curve (to simplify it, reconstruct it, fuse segments together, stuff like that) rather than Join.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3174.26 In reply to 3174.18 
Hi eric,

> I think the boolean solution will work well in most cases. It is
> mostly the need to do it quickly and have it as an entity for
> rendering purposes.

Yeah for rendering purposes you should probably be all set with the boolean solution, I believe it will save you some extra steps instead of attempting to build it with sweep and then planing off pieces after that.

Let me know if you get stuck when trying to use that technique in actual practice.

- Michael
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