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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
3157.1 
Does it possible to center Center Bar's tools bottom ?
(File to Snap Object)
because when you have a big rectangle screen you must make long mouse's way left's corner for click Flip Up etc...
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
3157.2 In reply to 3157.1 
Like my "Brians UI" for MoI V1!
It was a great help for arthritus and would be a big help now with V2 as well in my Windows 7 where there is a clashing with hoveres near the W7 items below.

Brian
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3157.3 In reply to 3157.1 
Hi Pilou,

> Does it possible to center Center Bar's tools bottom ?
> (File to Snap Object)

Yes, it's possible to set this up by editing the UI files.

To do that, find the file named CommandBar.htm inside the \ui subfolder, and open it up in a text editor program like notepad for example.

Near the top of the file (on the 5th line), you will find a section that starts with <style>

Add a new entry into this section so it looks like this:

<style>
    body { text-align:center; }

With that one line added into that section, then the next time you run MoI it will have those controls centered.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3157.4 In reply to 3157.3 
Hi Brian, to set it up for aligning to the right you would follow the same instructions on where to add that line of text, but you would have it say this instead:

body { text-align:right; }

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
3157.5 
Cool ! Works like a charm :)
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
3157.6 In reply to 3157.5 
Miles outside my normal involments but, if I place it as attached, which is not the fifth line?, all I get is that new wording preceeding the icons on the far left side?

Brian
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
3157.7 In reply to 3157.6 
Just to make sure we are on the same wave length--
This is what I would like to attain.
Brian

(And, ideally, that old progressive save icon also included so I could click on it and not have to use the A key!)
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3157.8 In reply to 3157.6 
Hi Brian, it has to go on the inside of the styles section.

The red arrow that you are showing is outside of the styles section, just after the end - that place will not work.

You need to put it on the inside, just hit enter a couple of times to make some new space before the end like this:



- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3157.9 In reply to 3157.7 
Hi Brian,

> Just to make sure we are on the same wave length--
> This is what I would like to attain.

Yes, that's what you will get if you add in that one line of text into the styles section as shown above.

It can go either at the top of it as I showed Pilou, or at the end of it, but it must be inside of it and not outside of it like your arrow was pointing to.

- Michael
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
3157.10 In reply to 3157.9 
Thanks Michael.
I was not so silly after all!

To be saspredidious!
I am not sure if either of Pilous or the other alternative are "Ideal"?
Can my "just to the Right Side of Centre" (as my last image) be attained please?
(As I have for V1)

Brian
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3157.11 In reply to 3157.10 
Hi Brian,

> Can my "just to the Right Side of Centre" (as my last
> image) be attained please?
> (As I have for V1)

If you put in what I showed above, it should then be set up the same as you have set up for v1 - the buttons will be stacked up starting from the right side rather than the left as is the default.

There isn't any easy one-line edit way to set it up to be only "partially" to the right, it will need to be one of left-aligned, center-aligned or right-aligned.

- Michael

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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
3157.12 In reply to 3157.11 
Thanks Michael

My V1 has (had) that setup. (Lost with the v1.1 update!)
Was it something Burr did for me back then?

It really is ideal.

Brian
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3157.13 In reply to 3157.12 
Hi Brian, as far as I can remember your v1 had a fully right-aligned bottom same as what this gives you.

Maybe it looked slightly different on your screen because you now have a new computer with a higher resolution monitor than before?

But actually, there is maybe one easy way to set up what you are talking about, put this in, instead of what I wrote above:

body { text-align:right; padding-right:200px; }


Notice there the 200px part? If you want to have more space to the right size increase the number part to something like 300 or 400, etc...

- Michael
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
3157.14 In reply to 3157.13 
Thanks Michael, but even changing the pixel numbers all I get is the RH side Pilou version?

And I did have my version on the new computer untill I installed V1.1?
I am too old for all this run around. Sorry

Am I spoilt in that the likes of Photoshop/ViaCAD--through to Carrara, just allow me to simply drag these important functions to a location that suits me?

Brian
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3157.15 In reply to 3157.14 
Hi Brian, in the future I do hope to make this more easily adjustable.

But it's going to be a while before that happens...

Maybe the center-aligned version would be closer to what you want than the right-aligned one.... that's up to you to decide.

I can certainly understand if you don't want to mess around with the current text-file based way you can modify things, but right now that will also mean that you would have to just use the regular default, I do not have a system set up for dragging toolbars around right now.

Early on in MoI's development cycle I had to make a choice whether to spend more time on making a toolbar editing system, or to invest more time into just making one standard UI that is as easy to use as I could, and my choice was to focus on getting one standard easy to use system in place first.

One thing to keep in mind is that unlike other software products that you are comparing with, I do not actually have a whole team of people to work on the UI for MoI, just me. Because my time is limited I often have to pick my battles carefully and have priorities set. Certainly the priorities that I picked will not always be the best for any one individual - it's just impossible to meet every single person's wishes all at once.

So if you prefer using ViaCAD instead of MoI for example because it allows you to move your toolbars to some spot, then I will certainly understand. But I think that you'll find pretty quickly that moving toolbars around is not at all really the thing that makes a program easy to use or not.

- Michael
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