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 From:  Michael Gibson
3142.4 In reply to 3142.3 
Hi Danny,

> Same behavior Michael, how does the step format
> know that the cylinder was created first?

Well, there's some kind of list of objects in the format and anytime you have a list of things one of them is at the start of the list and it probably just grabs that one as the "main" one or whatever... I'm just guessing though.


Could you try one more test? What if you add a space after the colon, so put the object names like this when exporting from MoI:

Assembly: Cone
Assembly: Cube
Assembly: Cylinder
Assembly: Sphere


Does that do anything different?

- Michael
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
3142.5 In reply to 3142.4 
Hi Michael,

> Does that do anything different?

The only difference is the name of the part in the tree, NX defines the colon as an underscore, so in the last object naming suggestion there is an added space after the underscore in the name of the objects.



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 From:  Michael Gibson
3142.6 In reply to 3142.5 
Hi Danny, I had seen in some STEP format imports into MoI from other programs that the object names are sometimes set to things like "Assembly: Object" , so that's why I was wondering if just having the names set up like that would work.

Apparently there needs to be more stuff set up in order for it to work, but I'm not really sure.

What happens if you import the attached files in (these have just 3 objects in them), do they work better or the same? These are from a couple of different programs. If they work differently then maybe I will be able to see what is different in their structures.

- Michael

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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
3142.7 In reply to 3142.6 
Hi Michael,

rhinov4_test.stp, just comes in as one part file with the three parts no assembly tree at all.

viacad_test.stp, behaves as MoI does.

I've attached a STEP file exported from NX6 which behaves as expected, maybe this file will give you a clue.

NX_test.stp result.



NX files the parts accordingly:





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 From:  Michael Gibson
3142.8 In reply to 3142.7 
Hi Danny,

> I've attached a STEP file exported from NX6 which
> behaves as expected, maybe this file will give you a clue.

Thanks for the file! Unfortunately it is kind of similar to trying to figure out the bureaucratic tax code...

I think I will have to ask the guy who makes the STEP libraries that I use about it.

I will not be surprised if it is not an easy thing to mess with though.

- Michael
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
3142.9 In reply to 3142.8 
No problem Michael, it was only a, if you can, question anyway.

The workaround would be to make a template file with an unrelated solid in it as the first object, then when imported into NX just delete that solid and everything else will be in the tree.

Thanks for looking into this!

Cheers
~Danny~
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 From:  Anis
3142.10 
hi Dany and Michael, maybe Group can solve this case? have yuo a target finishing group in v2?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3142.11 In reply to 3142.10 
Hi Anis, I'm getting close to working on groups.

> maybe Group can solve this case?

Well, groups in Moi would provide a good interface for how to set up the hierarchies.

But having a good interface access point does not automatically make functions appear for file export at the same time.

I'm still not sure to what extent the STEP library that I use is set up to control hierarchies in the generated STEP file. I think it may not currently have a lot in this area yet.

In fact these last tests by Danny seems to indicate that the hope I had for just putting the group information into object names separated by : characters is not going to do anything at all.

- Michael
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 From:  Anis
3142.12 
hi michael, if i remember correctly... i got same result when import step from another cad system to swx. step cant handle hierarcy. you should use iges. Danny, have you try iges or 3dm ?
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