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 From:  tyglik
2990.5 In reply to 2990.4 
okay, Michael... reasonable arguments in your previous two posts...

Yet another question about locked objects. I thought the "Isolate function" (right click on Hide button in the command palette) was a shortcut to doing a sequence of commands Invert + Hide. But it isn't because it handles locked objects as well - all locked and visible objects are hidden after using Isolate function.

Petr

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 From:  Michael Gibson
2990.6 In reply to 2990.5 
Hi Petr, one other thing I was thinking of was to possibly have the locked/unlocked mixed status displayed with some tiny icons, like this:



I usually try to avoid making really teeny-tiny things but I guess in this case it may be better than stacked over top of each other.


> I thought the "Isolate function" (right click on Hide button
> in the command palette) was a shortcut to doing a sequence
> of commands Invert + Hide.

It's really meant to be a method to hide all objects that are not selected, leaving only the selected objects shown so you can concentrate on them.

Previously the closest thing to that was Invert + Hide, but yeah Invert + Hide has different behavior with locked objects because locked objects do not get selected with the invert.

There's also another difference between Isolate and Invert+Hide - Isolate actually stores an internal snapshot of the state of all objects right before changing them, so that you can click it again later and get back to the pre-isolate state. This was actually the main reason to make a special isolate method.

- Michael
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 From:  tyglik
2990.7 In reply to 2990.6 
Hi Michael, do you have a set of those alternate icons? I could try how they fit to various screen resolution. But I guess if you are not loaded in favour of two-column style :) , you can leave it as it is. -Petr
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 From:  Marc (TELLIER)
2990.8 
Hi Petr and Michael,

Just an idea: the lock icon could be on the right side of the column, only appearing when needed.
It could 'eat' up a bit of the text label space while on.

Marc
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2990.9 In reply to 2990.7 
Hi Petr,

> Hi Michael, do you have a set of those alternate icons?

No, I don't have any set up yet, that was just a test run that I posted previously but it turned out kind of better than I had thought it would.

So I think I'll give that a try.

That would just be an alternate display for the mixed state though, it doesn't turn it into 2 column controls.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2990.10 In reply to 2990.8 
Hi Marc,

> It could 'eat' up a bit of the text label space while on.

One problem is that not everything has the text label immediately next to the status column, for styles there is a swatch next to it, and for groups there will probably be a +/- control next to it before the name text label.

- Michael
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 From:  Marc (TELLIER)
2990.11 In reply to 2990.10 
Hi Michael,

I'm not sure if I've explained it well, I meant at the rightmost side...




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 From:  Michael Gibson
2990.12 In reply to 2990.11 
Hi Marc, I see - that makes more sense.

But I already have something else planned for that spot - some things will likely get a arrow there (similar to the one Styles header part, but only showing up when the mouse is on that item's line) that will open up a menu with some additional actions and stuff related to that particular slot.

- Michael
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