Hi Burr, I've thought a little bit about making some of the frame points like that show up as snap targets for the Move tool... Again though it is kind of a similar concern of possibly filling in extra stuff on the screen.

For simple shapes like a rectangle or circle like PaQ is showing there, there is actually a center point osnap already available for those in the Move command already, unless you have disabled osnaps in general or the "cen" osnap in particular.

But I think what PaQ is also asking for is a way to use a grip as a shortcut for doing a "move from center point" without having to actually fire up the move command, similar to how you can grab on one of the corners of that frame to scale an object in v2 now, rather than needing to fire up the Transform/Scale command to do it.

- Michael

Well to resume it a little bit (this technical discussions are not easy with my poor english), it's like :

Select a shape, select the move tool, click on the center osnap, move the object ... all this things ... but in a single click drag movement.

Hi Michael,

Indeed, that's an horible exemple breaking my inital idea :'( ... good point !

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The function move don't make the trick?
Select the line by it center and move it to the snap center of the arc :)
It's not speedy and easy? Object frame must be not a dogma :D

A shortcut is possible to call/uncall the "Object frame selection"?

well (first line from my post) ... the 'idea' was to bypass the move command and use a natural drag and move as much as possible :P

Hi Pilou,

> A shortcut is possible to call/uncall the "Object frame selection"?

Yes, it is possible to create a shortcut to toggle the object frame on or off, by using the following for the command part of the shortcut:
script:moi.view.showEditFrame = !moi.view.showEditFrame;

There is also a checkbox available for it under Options / View / Show edit frame.

But it is a pretty big goal to make the object frame very unobtrusive so that it is not necessary to do that.

- Michael

Thx that can be useful
because use frame selection is sometime not necessary and hide that is behind :)
And go to the option is no so speedy than press a key ;)

Yeah, I suggested something similar here http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=1886.11
The separate move tool is fine though, it was the same thought that I had PaQ.

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Hi Pilou,

> because use frame selection is sometime not necessary
> and hide that is behind :)

This is the reason why the frame is very sparse (no connecting lines to make a box outline for example).

Also the frame corners should be partially transparent and not totally obscure the background behind them until you move the mouse directly over a grip. Is this function not working properly on your machine?

Under normal circumstances these properties of the frame should help to keep it out of the way and avoid obscuring objects behind it.

- Michael