Hi Michael ...

Don't respond now ... just enjoy your vacation and the warmth ... it is 12C here today ... but sunny!

If I create a T-Spline object in Rhino and then save the file as 3dm the T-Spline objects do not show up in MoI ... even if I use the command in T-splines that converts the objects to Rhino Surfaces ...

This is not a present time problem for me ... I am just beginning to learn to use T-Splines and am not sure they will really help me my actual work flow.

cheers,
eric

Hi Eric,

Can you please share your result from t-spline ?

Thanks

Sorry if I seem to repeat myself.

I consider, as well as because of its cost, that Rhino is a very "specialists" (complicated) app.

MoI seem the ideal Nerbs app for most.
I still think Hexagon outweighs most apps (including the big 3) for Poly modelling. (A shame that Eovia(France) did not have an extra 6 months with it--just a few little niggly bits that could be "easily" fixed?)

Value for money I doubt that many app combintions can match that MoI,Hexagon, Carrara for user interactivity/versatility/ friendliness--currently.

EXCEPT, I think 3D Coat (V3) is the coming big app where the triumverate would be MoI, 3D Coat, Carrara.

BUT, again, with the approaching (FREE) Blender2.5--will it be the middle of the year?---could the "Ideal" combination be MoI, 3D Coat, Blender2.5?

Brian

If you open a Tspline/3DM file in MoI, you should get the equivalent smooth polysurface. This is same as if you open a Tspline file in Rhino without a TSpline license on that machine. It just converts back to a polysurface...

jonah

Yes, that is what it should do, I think. I did start with a Rhino nurbs file with one object and that came through ... but when I used the basic solids from T-splines (like sphere and box) they did not come into MoI even though I had modified them with T-splines and then converted them back to Rhino surfaces.
Odd, I think ... but when I lose something in translation I just shrug and know that I don't understand the language.
cheers,
eric

I would but I was just fooling around with some random shapes and did not bother to save the file.
Next time.
Eric

Hi Brian ...

I couldn't agree with you more. I use Rhino because I have for a number of years, I can do sophisticated 2d drafting with it, one of its plug-ins is great for creating cross sections of construction, complex and large site contour tools and it has built in (plug-in) renderers that are great for architecture and landscape architecture (in my humble opinion). It is, as you point out a "specialists" tool.

MoI is more intuitive, getting better every day, much less expensive - beats SketchUp hands down ... I love working with it when I can ... but it is not yet a one-tool for me. It may be by version 3.

I personally am very happy that you are beating the drum for MoI ... I do, too ... it is a GREAT modeling tool.

cheers,
eric

Hi Eric. You're using the 2.0 beta? Those primitives are T-mesh objects, not Nurbs. So probably your object is not a smooth t-spline, but is a smooth T-mesh. They look almost the same... Convert the object to smooth Tspline mode... Then i think MoI will import the polysurface...

jonah

Hi Eric - 80 degrees Fahrenheit here - couldn't be any better! :)

It sounds like Jonah has a description of the conversion that you need to do?

That is probably the same thing that you would need to do to send your t-spline model to someone who has Rhino but not the t-splines plugin. If you need any additional info from the t-splines guys you might ask them that question (how do I send my model to someone with "vanilla" rhino).

Please let me know if you are still stuck.

- Michael

"beats SketchUp hands down"
they are not on the same family but are both crazy easy to use ;)
Say cousins at the third level :)
And Moi export directly to it :D

Right Jonah ...

I does exactly that.

thanks
eric

All I can say is thank god (aka Tom Sederberg) for T-Splines. I am doing a project for a client today which is a military style logo crest button. On it there are 2 lions, some twisted rope with sculpted metal brackets, and a jeweled crown. All details must be modeled in a false perspective. Would be a real b-tch if not for Tsplines. My workflow goes in this order -

sculpt a mesh grid in Modo for basic shape
retopo in Hexagon
import to Tsplines

Sweet! I wish I could publicly show this work in progress. But this one is under wraps at least for the next few months. It's gonna look awesome though... :)

jonah

Dreaming for a T-Spline for MoI version, even if the plugin cost twice MoI's price, I'll pay for it, even in beta stage.

(t-spline home has been hacked :'( )

@PaQ: çà me rappelle le site PushPulbar1, tout était parti en fumée! :(

Someone don't like 3D :(

>Dreaming for a T-Spline for MoI version, even if the plugin cost twice MoI's price, I'll pay for it, even in beta stage.

Yep, me too. For the type of work I want to do (aviation subjects) it would be the perfect solution and being able to combine that with the easy to use MoI is my dream modelling software.

Tsplines website is fixed. Order is restored to the universe once again...

Hi Michael ,Jonah , end Friends ;
today I have sent to the tspline forum this work ;
end so it is like imported in Moi one tspline surface-
best
al
Sorry for my English

That looks really cool speedy.

lovely pictures!

and a really good example of t-splines :)

Fredrik

Just wondering, because of the parenting link between MoI and Rhino, is it really a lot of work to build a Tspline for MoI version ?
I have no idea the amount of work required to do a MoI flavour of this technology.