Gaps in understanding are not related to age.

Brian

Hi Brian, I have to admit I am completely perplexed and mystified as to why you have such an intensive recurring focus on the keyboard shortcuts.

It is actually a pretty simple procedure to set them up - if you want to have nudging, you copy 1 file named Nudge.js into one folder, then you go in and add a few entries in the shortcut key manager to make a key that will be connected to that file.

Copying a file should be a very simple action that I am very surprised makes you so frustrated.

If you have never learned how to copy a file from one place to another, it would definitely be a good idea to learn how to do that because it will come up pretty often just in many basic tasks on your computer, totally separate from using MoI.

And actually once you have done the procedure to set up a keyboard shortcut one time for v1, you will not need to do it anymore, because with each of the recent betas I have made a helper program (actually I made it specifically to help you) that you can run which will copy the files from the MoI v1 folder into the latest beta's folder.

So after it is set up once for v1 after that you only have to run the script copier program and that's it!

If this is too complex for you, then I'm sorry - I guess it means that MoI is too complex for you and you should stop using it and use one of the other programs instead which you keep referring to.

It is not likely that I will be able to focus a lot of time on the shortcut key editor anytime soon, I discussed this in great detail in the previous message here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=2333.60

If you find MoI to be too frustrating to use, I can certainly understand and I won't take it personally! I have long ago come to terms with the idea that my software will not be perfect for everyone.

- Michael

Brian,
You did ask how "I" did it though. Normally in MoI, if you wanted to move something, you would use the MoI command for Moving something:



It's pretty obvious what command in MoI "Moves" things. I think it is documented well also.

It just so happens that there's this really cool developer of third party apps for MoI Named Petr! I use some of HIS tools and I had to go out and get them and install them.

Do you have "Inagoni Shaders" for Carrara? I do. I had to go "Purchase" them from another web site and "Install" them into Carrara. There was documentation on how to install them as they didnt magically appear in the Carrara user interface when I gave them my credit card.

I also have "Archi Tools". Same process. There wasnt even any keyboard shortcuts in Carrara for me to use Archi Tools. I had to make my own.

Get it?

Oh Yeah,



Pretty Clear!!!

Thanks Burr

I am so sorry that Michael seems to take things as a personal "complaint" rather than "another point of view"--I ,really, am trying to help "understanding"-- SERIOUSLY--that I live through tomorrow is a miracle---I have no axe to grind---I have NO agenda!.

NOW -- I want to add that Z thing to do that thingy in your vid--and I have a "JS" thinghy and NO idea what to do with it next

Arrrrhhh

A good Aussie saying "bugger!"

Brian

Hi Brian, well do you have the file named Nudge.js ?

Can you copy that file into the commands folder? The commands folder for the new v2 beta is located here:

C:\Program Files\MoI 2.0 beta Jan-19-2009\commands


If you can do that step, then we can go to the next step with setting up the keyboard shortcuts.

If you do not understand how to copy a file to a certain folder, then there is not much hope to get it done I'm afraid!

If you think that copying a file is complicated, I sure don't understand how you've been able to learn how to do 3D modeling... It is amazing to me that you've made such progress doing 3D stuff (and you definitely have, your models have grown more sophisticated and cleaner over time) but get upset about copying a file!

- Michael

Michael

I remember, back in the 1940s, when Algebra was added to our maths learning.
In the first three quarters of the year I was bottom of the class.
THEN it jelled!--and, at the end of the year, I was top of the class!

What was the "medium of understanding" that provided that "jell" factor?

Brian

ps More laughs about life!---I went on to enjoy playing around with Calculus.
BUT, the real laugh, in my very early 20s,---- in one of Aussies biggest companies,----
I was asked if I had an University education!

They asked, would you believe, because I regularly used a Slide Rule!

I AM NOT MAKING THAT UP!

Hi Michael

Yep, I've spent quite a bit of time polymodelling so fully understand its strengths and weaknesses against nurbs.

As far as wanting to do control point manipulation goes the main reason for wanting to use it is the standard nurbs tools can create most of surfaces I want quickly and efficiently but there are just a couple of surfaces that control point manipulation is the ideal solution to avoid a quilted patchwork of surfaces that don't have continuity.

While being able to add additional points on surface exactly where you need them would be fantastic I think adding extra rows of points would be fine. Also having a type of specialised control point manipulation/tweaking tools would be good also. Anyway well wait to see what you come up with in future versions of MoI in this regard.

Indeed

thanks Michael, I'm learning something every day here..