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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
2287.4 
Thanks Michael and Tony ...

It sounds like I should probably stay with a mouse rather than investing the time and money on a new piece of hardware. I'll keep my budget monies for software upgrades, I think. Paying work may be a little short this year.

thanks again,
eric
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 From:  BurrMan
2287.5 In reply to 2287.3 
Ash,
If it's been that long for you then you have probably traveled down all the roads but I thought I'de throw it out anyway.

For the mouse operations you may HAVE to do, a palm type trackball like the Kensington Mouse Expert Pro removes the finger cupping that comes from a normal mouse and eliminates the wrist issue. I lay the butt of my palm on the ball and use more forearm movements. The buttons can be hit with small movements, almost no finger tendon use. the feature that enacts "Precision movement" elimnates the need to strain the hand to be pixel precise.

JFYI.
Burr
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 From:  -ash-
2287.6 In reply to 2287.5 
Hi Burr, thanks for the info.

Yes, tried various mice and stuff - the tablet turned out to be the best.

However, strange to tell, I tried out a trackball just before Xmas. Unfortunately I have also developed shoulder problems (at work, I'm fine at home) and thought the trackball would help. I tried the Logitech trackball pro and it didn't help that much, plus it did make the wrist somewhat sore, though not as bad as the mouse. The HCI specialist and Occ Health nurse reckon it's because the keyboard is too wide and pushes my arm out too far. So I'll be looking to get a narrow keyboard without numeric keypad. I don't have this issue at home because I don't do as much typing and have the tablet much more in front of me (day job is technical author/illustrator).

I see that the Kensington Mouse Expert Pro is a very different beast from the Logitech, so I'll mention this to the experts at work anyway. I'm okay with the tablet at home and all my personal apps are 'tablet friendly'.

Anyway, thanks again.

Regards
Tony

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 From:  BurrMan
2287.7 In reply to 2287.6 
Ash,
If it's an area you havnt tried yet, I have some valuable input regarding this.

I'll post some pics in a bit to illustrate what I mean. The main thing is to set "Speeds and Movment".

There are 2 settings. One for "When I move fast" and "When I move slow". Set these values at more extreme settings with "When I move fast" set to move the cursor fast, And "when I move slow" set to move the cursor slow. Then the ball is set in the palm instead of fingers. With just a "FLICK", the cursor can shoot all the way across the screen. Yet if you "MOVE" it, the cursor moves with slow precision. WHat you eliminate is "Click and hold" to "Scoot, Scoot, Scoot" so common with mouse operations (This is where most mouse stress comes from) Buttons that do the "click and holding" for you.

Not trying to get you off a tablet, just to replace ANY mouse work you may still need to do.

These settings can be found in regular shaped mouse drivers also, the benefit with the ball is the placment in the palm instead of the fingers. It allows you to just about "Relax" your arm and make very little movment or "Tension" in the arm, hand/wrist, fingers. Clicks are accessible with say the side of the thumb as a tap down.

Anyway, I'll see if I can get the wife to help with a short vid or something to illustrate so you get to experience what benefit I'm refering to.

Good Luck, talk to you later,
Burr
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
2287.8 In reply to 2287.7 
For my Arthur in the hand I find the Thumb Ball Logitec mouse very good.

Then, I also now find the Logitec MX Laser, with all those extra buttons built in--also very good.

I tend to swap between the two depending on the type of work I am doing and it's particular effects at the time on old Arthur!

Brian
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 From:  -ash-
2287.9 In reply to 2287.7 
Burr, thanks.

I think the problem I had was using the buttons on the logitech. They didn't seem in a good position and caused quite a bit of strain. I have the tablet set so that I hold the rocker buttons and press for double click/right click. All very easy, like using a pencil.

I really don't do any mouse work at all now, with a tablet both at work and at home. The main thing I have to do is to avoid bending the wrist back in any way and to keep the shoulder relaxed, down and pulled into the body. However, I am always open to options so any more info is appreciated.

Cheers.

Regards
Tony

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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
2287.10 In reply to 2287.9 
When V2 comes out, I am hoping Burr will help me set up the "Brians UI" ideas.

Every sufferer of Arthur will be in envy!

I hope!!

Brian
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 From:  BurrMan
2287.11 In reply to 2287.10 
Hey Brian......

CARRARA 7!!!!!!
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
2287.12 In reply to 2287.11 
Carrara7?

Well not much different from C6--both of which (like Hexagon) I modifiy a little the UI to become more "Arthur" friendly.

The thing about MoI is that one can REALLY work fast doing things and these little "glitches" that impede natural work flow seem to stand out a lot more.

I live in hope
(Keyboard users may not notice as much?)

Brian
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2287.13 In reply to 2287.12 
Hi Brian, the tricky part is one man's "glitch" is another man's "feature"... Like being able to run on a smaller screen for example.

- Michael
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