Hi Will and Michael,

It certainly would be nice to have both possibilities.

Would it also be interesting to be able to enter a factor of enlargment or reduction like (ex. : /2 or *2 ) in those boxes ?

-Michel

LOL, Hi Michael, yes, of course the other item is in the menu but I was just saying that in the >space< at the top, there's only the X to close the menu and that's where I was suggesting the snap values could be added in that space, below the X...

I know you like to keep things light but yes, if possible, if you could fit an entry for both values, that would be great.

Thanks for the consideration!

-Will

PS - I rarely change the Grid value, but change the snap size often so I didn't even think about the Grid setting - but as you and others suggested, sure it would be nice to have both ;-)

Hi Will, well that is such a small menu it is not a problem to expand it in size to hold some additional controls.

It is a good spot to have alternate access to some of the most frequently used grid settings instead of pulling up the whole Options dialog that has all the settings on it.

Here is what I changed it to:



Does that seem like it should do what you need?


If you'd like to try it, you can update your current version to have this by copying the attached GridSnapMenu.htm file over top of the old version in the \ui subfolder in MoI's main installation folder.


EDIT: updated GridSnapMenu.htm to reverse the order to put Snap size above grid size, and enable auto-focus. This means that after you pop up that menu you can immediately type a number after that without needing to click in the control first.

- Michael

Bonjour Michel,

> It certainly would be nice to have both possibilities.

Ok, I will keep those as separate things to control. They are actually currently available as separate things on the full Options / Grid dialog that has all the grid settings on it.

If you'd like to give the updated Grid mini-menu a try, you can get the updated UI for that in the previous message here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=2195.5


> Would it also be interesting to be able to enter a factor of
> enlargment or reduction like (ex. : /2 or *2 ) in those boxes ?

That should actually work right now if you leave the current number in place, and add the /2 or *2 after it, since you can enter numeric expressions.

So for example if you have a size of 5, add the /2 after it so the whole expression looks like 5/2 .

But I think that would be nice to be able to enter a special "modify existing value" notation like you show there, and probably that will not be too difficult for me to add. I will put that on my list of things to try and get in for the next beta.

- Michael

Hi Will, also I just made another tweak on that menu, I put Snap size above Grid size and enabled auto focus, so if you want to change the snap size you can click on the arrow to open the menu, then after that you can type in a number and push enter, you don't need to do any other clicks after you launch the menu because any numeric keystrokes that you type in will go automatically into that snap size control.

So for example to change the snap size to 0.1, click that arrow above Grid Snap, type 0.1 [enter] and you're done.

If you want to set both snap size and grid size, do the same but instead of hitting after entering the snap size, type Tab instead, which will apply your value and take you to the grid size control, then type your value there and push Enter.

- Michael

Thank you so much, Michael - you're spoiling me with all of these quick fixes! :-D

I'll add in your changes pronto!


Just now I was redoing my model by resizing it a bit differently but I copied those docking cushions from my previous model to the new one since they are the same.


I was trying to drag them up against the side of the hull as they were in the previous model but I was having a problem constraining the movement strictly horizontal (X axis) - it kept moving up and down vertically.

I then realized that I like to set my straight snap angle to a low value (15). By upping that back to 30 or 45, It wasn't overly sensitive and I was able to drag the piece into position easily.


So also being a snap related value, if you can squeeze in the Snap Angle, that along with the grid and snap values should be all grid related nirvana that one would need in that menu while modeling...


Your call of course!

-Will

Hi Will,

Re: Snap angle - that is normally grouped with a different
set of stuff than the Grid options, so I don't think that it
would really go there by default.

But I've attached here a custom version that you can use which
has it added on that grid menu.


You can also set up some shortcut keys to switch the straight
snap angle to different values:

Set straight snap to 15 degrees:

script:moi.drawingAids.straightSnapAngle = 15;

Set straight snap to 45 degrees:

script:moi.drawingAids.straightSnapAngle = 45;

If you put those as the Command part on a keyboard shortcut, that
will let you switch to a specific angle with a keypress.

Also here is another variant that you can put on a single key which will
switch it back and forth between 15 or 45 every time you hit that same key:

script:if ( moi.drawingAids.straightSnapAngle == 15 ) moi.drawingAids.straightSnapAngle = 45; else moi.drawingAids.straightSnapAngle = 15;

If you want to switch it frequently probably those keyboard shortcuts
will be better than the menu anyway.

- Michael

Okay Michael, thanks - I'll give the scripts a try. ;-)

-Will

PS - Thanks for everything with this - it's made using MOI much more nicer for me!